Boris Johnson to Use High Tariffs as 'Leverage' in Trade Negotiations With EU, US .

[Refugee]

Refugee correct, Boris reminding the EU that tariffs cut both ways. And that article isn't about America, except....America stands ready for a yuge bi-lateral trade deal with Britain as soon as it leaves the idiocy of the EU.

True. Switzerland have also expressed a recent interest. I don’t think Americans understand it very well.

OK, let’s say a man in Canada called Fred had an idea (you didn’t get a vote on it). In return for billions of dollars every year, Fred will make US laws, pass regulations and tell you with who and what you can trade in. In return you have to do what Fred tells you. You can still have your House and senate and talk as much as you like, but you can’t change what Fred says. While Britain stays in the European Union, Fred won’t let us trade with the US either.

[carolina73]

You're saying Johnson will monkey see monkey do Trudeau's tariff policies on the following US imports?

• Steel products including rolled steel, bars, rods, wire, and pipes
• Aluminum products including nails, tube containers, tanks, and cans
• Yogurt
• Coffee
• Premade meals with beef or chicken
• Maple syrup
• Licorice candy toffee, some chocolates, and other candy
• Pizza
• Cucumbers and pickles
• Strawberry jam
• Orange juice
• Soy sauce
• Ketchup, mayonnaise, salad dressing, and other condiments
• Soup
• Water
• Whiskeys
• Manicure products, hair spray, shaving balms, body wash, and various toiletries
• Air freshener, dishwasher detergent
• Candles
• Herbicide, insecticide, fungicide
• Tableware and kitchenware
• Some types of plywood
• Paper products including paper, paperboard, toilet paper, tissues, tablecloths, and postcards
• Kitchen equipment including stoves, refrigerator-freezers, and dishwashers
• Lawn mowers
• Boats including sailboats, motorboats, and inflatable boats
• Wood chairs
• Mattresses
• Sleeping bags, pillows, bedding
• Playing cards
• Ballpoint and felt-tipped pens

Mostly your list leaves people wondering how they come up with these lists. Then you look at the complications of just using more general classes of product like all food, metals, transportation...
Then you see these lists and with the UK owning so many US and other foreign interests that tariffs may actually hurt the US more if they are not selective

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And now the iconic GE appliances and lighting are Chinese owned.

[Peter1469]

Unless the goal is to bring industry back to the UK. Our Founders did this and the US did it for well over 100 years of our country's existence. It worked.

How absurd...(lol)...instead of a more efficient global trading system , we'll end up with a global tariff-a-thon.......https://sputniknews.com/uk/202001251...-eu-us-report/ ........."As the UK is about to finalise its divorce from the European Union, British officials are also currently preparing for long and contentious talks with the remaining 27 member states, as well as some non-European nations, over the future of mutual trade agreements. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson could threaten the European Union, the United States, and other countries with high tariffs as “leverage” to pressure the nations to conclude trade deals with Britain, The Times has learned. The strategy of threatening trade partners with high tariffs in order to accelerate trade talks was allegedly discussed by Boris Johnson and his cabinet ministers who agreed during a meeting of the EU exit strategy committee on Thursday that the proposal should be put up for consultation."

[carolina73]

Tariffs are now the fashion, but what all this sis about is the European Union threatening the UK with tariffs if they leave the EU. As the UK imports more from the EU than it exports, it’s Boris warning the EU that tariffs work both ways. Further, as Ireland is divided into two, with one half staying in the EU, Southern Ireland whose trade passes through the Northern Irish non-EU destination would, if the EU start to mess around, could well attract tariffs. That’s what the article is about, not America.

Bingo. He has to act that way politically but he knows the score. The uK needs access to growing US market more than failing EU markets.

[Ransom]

I'm still wondering whether @Dr. Who was speaking about Canada or not with the monkey see monkey do comment. Was that referring to Boris Johnson monkey seeing what Canada is doing...or what. Canada well known for scorching high tariffs on US dairy products for example....and subsidizing Canadian dairy farmers in a Canada First policy, protecting their own large farming communities.

I'm asking because Dr. Who and I sometimes....every once in a blue moon....agree. And if you're talking about Boris perhaps speaking to Trudeau about using tariffs and threats of tariffs for trade policy....because Justin can tariff his ass off. And can threaten them too. While in black face. I like Trudeau, I predicted he could survive his scandal. Weakened yes....gone....no. The Canadians are very forgiving, hypocrisy obviously doesn't bother them.

[Ransom]

Unless the goal is to bring industry back to the UK. Our Founders did this and the US did it for well over 100 years of our country's existence. It worked.

I think autonomy itself plays a big part, Peter. The UK just voted.....and trade policy made by them in their own interests very much weighing on voter decision. The issues the UK wanted to break off from the UK over were immigration, taxation, and trade policies, the British want to decide on their own what products to tariff, to enter multi or bi-lateral deals. To self govern, autonomy, freedom.

[MMC]

Tariffs are now the fashion, but what all this sis about is the European Union threatening the UK with tariffs if they leave the EU. As the UK imports more from the EU than it exports, it’s Boris warning the EU that tariffs work both ways. Further, as Ireland is divided into two, with one half staying in the EU, Southern Ireland whose trade passes through the Northern Irish non-EU destination would, if the EU start to mess around, could well attract tariffs. That’s what the article is about, not America.

That is why the Times reported, that Johnson could threaten tariffs. Which is why I also put the second link in where Johnson says he is confident of a tariff free trade deal with the EU. Despite the First link also saying the same thing.


Of course that part about allegedly was discussed, validates the uncertainty of the Times.

[Peter1469]

I think autonomy itself plays a big part, Peter. The UK just voted.....and trade policy made by them in their own interests very much weighing on voter decision. The issues the UK wanted to break off from the UK over were immigration, taxation, and trade policies, the British want to decide on their own what products to tariff, to enter multi or bi-lateral deals. To self govern, autonomy, freedom.

Correct.

[Ransom]

Correct.

And thus @PJL confuses me here. Every industrialized nation uses tariffs and/or the threat of tariff as part of their trade policy. Dr. Who confuses me further with some 'monkey see monkey do', Boris Johnson obviously the monkey seeing, the country Boris looking at however remains a mystery. I would think Dr. Who meant Canada, a nation notorious for tariffs and government subsidies...in other words Canada First protectionism.

[PJL]

I'm not getting PJL's point. .

My point is quite simple - tariffs should not be part of global trading.....not by any country.