We've seen how carelessly this president operates.

[Admiral Ackbar]

Make no mistake. This was clearly and extremely impulsive.

The discussion took place at a dinner table with parnas, the president, and a few other people. The only thing the president “learned” was from Parnas. Lev simply lied to him and told him that Yavanovitch was bad mouthing him. Predictably, he took it at face value and within 34 seconds fired her.

Lev needed her gone. I think you will agree that it didn’t take very much at all to trick the President into making that happen.

Whatever you were watching was a distortion. What channel was it?
The audio is below. Start it at 3:04


Start watching at 3:04 for audio of president and parnas

Are we under the impression that the Ambasador to Ukraine is such a key postion that it is of grave concern who holds this role and the work they do is so important that they can not be removed? It seems we are more impulsive about removing the President of the United States than an ambassador to a third rate unimportant country like Ukraine.

Tell me who is Ambassador to Belarus, Latvia, Estonia or Romania, or even who is Ambassador to Russia if these role are of such importance? IF any of them were fired in the next ten minutes it would make ZERO difference to anything. I assure you

[Admiral Ackbar]

Come to think of it Trump ought to fire Eric Ciaramella from the Eastern European desk at the CIA. He can easily be replaced as well

[Hoosier8]

If you've had any doubts that Trump is acquainted with Lev Parnas, they should be long gone by now.

Take a listen to the audio (and now video) of Lev Parnas convincing the President to fire the US Ukrainian Ambassador. You will finally get a better sense of the level of professionalism and thoughtfulness that he puts into making decisions. Inside of 20 seconds, Parnas hypnotized Trump into firing the loyal and effective anti-corruption Ukraine Ambassador. If he didn't know Parnas, that makes it worse: this president should not be recklessly weighing any the words of a nobody into his important decisions.

Aren't any of you concerned at how easily manipulated this President is?
Listen to that recording it wont take long. Not long at all to make Trump into a puppet.
Here is basically what was said....(warning:not verbatim)

Parnas: We need to get rid of The Ukraine Ambassador, she says your gonna get impeached.
Trump: Get rid of her. ok? Tomorrow. Do it.


Shouldn't we now be worried about this man and his impulsiveness? his naiveté? his fondness for private one on one meetings? no note taking. no aides?

Have you wondered what ideas the master manipulator Putin has planted inside Trumps apparently feeble mind? Listening to Friday/Saturday recording of Trump getting owned by simple lies, I don't find it hard to believe that Putin programmed Trump to deny Russia interfered with elections. To place the blame Ukraine, to put off Ukraine support and White house meetings, do ease off sanctions on Russia.... what else?

Shouldn't we worry about how his maluability may have played a role in previous questionable decisions...

His spur of the moment decision to pull out ove Syria when the turkish President simply yells at him.

his decision to assassinate the Iranian general.

His decision way back in 2017 to divulge code word level access information to his russian visitors, precipitating the need to extract a deep cover asset inside the kremlin?

decisions
decisions
decisions

Trump is over his head. he is a bull in china shop. He should not be left without a babysitter.

This is the President you strive to defend. the one you revere.

I don't care if the Republicans win any more. Just get a different candidate. Anyone would be safer. Sarah Palin would be an improvement .

Pretty well known the Ambassador was against Trump as President.

[TheLiquidGuy]

*I am not sure what your point is.*

You're kidding right ??

'Parnas hypnotize the President' to fire the ambassador a year later.

'his impulsiveness' a year later.

All BS musings by you, totally unrelated to facts.

Apparently You are the one who BSes.



The only reason it didn't happen is because the people around him refused to carry out his command.


I used to give you more credit than you deserve. But it seems you have slipped into disingenuous BS.

If you heard the audio, you heard this thoughtful, prudent, strategic President say the following...

"Get rid of her. get her out TOMORROW . I don't care. Get her out TOMORROW. Take her out. OK? DO IT."

He said TOMORROW. TWICE even. He was not joking around. He said "DO IT." as if he needed any more clarity.


It didn't happen. But that's not for lack of trying, is it?


That is what is important. Thats why he is impulsive.


This President does not play chess, he plays Whack-a-mole.

[TheLiquidGuy]

Pretty well known the Ambassador was against Trump as President.

the hearings didn't bare that out

[hanger4]

Apparently You are the one who BSes.



The only reason it didn't happen is because the people around him refused to carry out his command.


I used to give you more credit than you deserve. But it seems you have slipped into disingenuous BS.

If you heard the audio, you heard this thoughtful, prudent, strategic President say the following...

"Get rid of her. get her out TOMORROW . I don't care. Get her out TOMORROW. Take her out. OK. DO IT."

He said TOMORROW. TWICE even.


It didn't happen. But that's not for lack of trying, is it?


That is what is important. Thats why he is impulsive.


This President does not play chess, he plays Whack-a-mole.

*It didn't happen*

This ^^^^ is the most honest thing you said so far.

She was fired a year later, nothing impulsive, not in 34 seconds, but a year later.

[Captdon]

I know.

You completely miss the point.

The President of the United States got owned by some 2 bit hood in 34 seconds.

All Lev had to do was lie to Mr. ”very large Eh-brain” and he fired her.

Try reading your crap out loud and then you will slap yourself in the head. I have a dog that knows more about what goes on than you do.

Trump didn't need a reason to fire her.

[TheLiquidGuy]

Are we under the impression that the Ambasador to Ukraine is such a key postion that it is of grave concern who holds this role and the work they do is so important that they can not be removed? It seems we are more impulsive about removing the President of the United States than an ambassador to a third rate unimportant country like Ukraine.

Tell me who is Ambassador to Belarus, Latvia, Estonia or Romania, or even who is Ambassador to Russia if these role are of such importance? IF any of them were fired in the next ten minutes it would make ZERO difference to anything. I assure you

You think like Trump.

Ukraine is important because it is effectively a proxy war with Russia. Russia's expansionism successes result in an increase in their power and a corresponding decrease in ours. Trumps inexplicable admiration for Putin aside, this hurts us. Yovanovitch may or may not have been directly useful in the war with Russia, but she was useful as a strong anti corruption ambassador. And corruption can hamper or even doom a war effort in extreme cases. Trump wanted her out based on rumours that she didn't like him, not because it helped anti corruption efforts. I realize that in writing this I am making a case for why Trump was right to be concerned for corruption in Ukraine. But neither he nor anyone in his circle has ever made that argument before. And as I have said many times before, this president doesn't think that far ahead. Nor does he seem to tolerate an entourage that does.

[Hoosier8]

You think like Trump.

Ukraine is important because it is effectively a proxy war with Russia. Russia's expansionism successes result in an increase in their power and a corresponding decrease in ours. Trumps inexplicable admiration for Putin aside, this hurts us. Yovanovitch may or may not have been directly useful in the war with Russia, but she was useful as a strong anti corruption ambassador. And corruption can hamper or even doom a war effort in extreme cases. Trump wanted her out based on rumours that she didn't like him, not because it helped anti corruption efforts. I realize that in writing this I am making a case for why Trump was right to be concerned for corruption in Ukraine. But neither he nor anyone in his circle has ever made that argument before. And as I have said many times before, this president doesn't think that far ahead. Nor does he seem to tolerate an entourage that does.

She was good friends with the last corrupt President. Just sayin.

Doesnt think ahead? He is doing what he said needed to be done back in the 80’s.

[carolina73]

More outrage from TheLiquidGuy about anything he can find. Look how he tries to hype it up. He sounds like Schiff and Nadler and the MSM pretending everything is one second away from nuclear war.

Trump let democrats stay in office too long. He should have wiped them all out. They are anti-Americans.