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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Really. I hear it was someone repeating what someone told them Bolton wrote. The book is not out and they are not going to pre-release it to the NYTimes for any other reason than publicity to ramp up the pre-orders.

    They have done the same with all these tell-all flops.
    you are probably right


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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    That sir is someone repeating hearsay evidence. And you sir are a total ({)

    "WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton." -New York Times

    This is the very first line in the NYT article. It is a bold and direct statement. It does not equivocate. It does not qualify. A newspaper the size of the NYT, is acutely aware that they will suffer the scrutiny of the masses with every article they publish. But with a story of such magnitude and possible repercussions, they know that scrutiny will be tripled.


    They did not say such a thing lightly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    "WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton." -New York Times

    This is the very first line in the NYT article. It is a bold and direct statement. It does not equivocate. It does not qualify. A newspaper the size of the NYT, is acutely aware that they will suffer the scrutiny of the masses with every article they publish. But with a story of such magnitude and possible repercussions, they know that scrutiny will be tripled.


    They did not say such a thing lightly.
    And without in context quotes from Bolton's book it's no more than a NYT's opinion piece they're disguising as breaking news.

    At this point in time there's no there there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    So now Bolton is a Democrat? The kindest thing i can say is that’s a stretch.


    If it was Ukrainian corruption he was concerned with, he would have said “Ukrainian corruption”. It shows that the President was concerned with “investigations into the Democrats including the Bidens”, not corruption. The mention of the word “Democrats” is the most damning point here. If that one word survives scrutiny in cross examination, then there is no question of intent. I am slightly leaning towards the opinion that it will not. All the same, this shows that there was a qpq, contrary to what the President’s defence said on Saturday.

    Cannot be substantiated? Bolton is the thing that Republicans have been screaming for since day one: a First Hand Witness.




    The parnas information proves trump was interested in corruption??? How in the world did you come up with that nonsense?

    the parnas video shows that trump is easily manipulated by anyone within his earshot. It shows he is not particular about the company he keeps. It shows he is not thoughtful or careful with his decisions.

    It also shows that the Yavanovitch firing was not likely a part of the effort to smear Biden.
    You really are not that sharp are you? The LEAK, not Bolton is the dem clown show's modus operandi like they did with Kavanaugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier8 View Post
    You really are not that sharp are you? The LEAK, not Bolton is the dem clown show's modus operandi like they did with Kavanaugh.
    Bolton claims he never gave the manuscript to anyone except the White House. Bolton, a Republican, gave his still classified manuscript to the Republican controlled White House. Yet the dems planned to leak it all along? Spare me your deep state conspiracy theories.

    Even if this really were a part of one of Republican's paranoid nonsense deep state conspiracy theories, it doesn't change the truth of the matter: Bolton heard it directly from Trump. That's the central issue here. How sharp do you need to be to realize that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    And without in context quotes from Bolton's book it's no more than a NYT's opinion piece they're disguising as breaking news.

    At this point in time there's no there there.
    It's not an opinion piece. They are effectively saying its a fact.
    I am guessing that the White House is dragging its feet in clearing the book for classified info. That seems the likely reason why there are no quotes. Don't hold your breath waiting for "the most transparent president ever" to cooperate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    It's not an opinion piece. They are effectively saying its a fact.
    I am guessing that the White House is dragging its feet in clearing the book for classified info. That seems the likely reason why there are no quotes. Don't hold your breath waiting for "the most transparent president ever" to cooperate.
    If they were given quotes they should have posted quotes. If they weren't given quotes they're posting opinions. They posted no quotes, it's an opinion piece disguised as breaking news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Bolton claims he never gave the manuscript to anyone except the White House. Bolton, a Republican, gave his still classified manuscript to the Republican controlled White House. Yet the dems planned to leak it all along? Spare me your deep state conspiracy theories.
    Even if this really were a part of one of Republican's paranoid nonsense deep state conspiracy theories, it doesn't change the truth of the matter: Bolton heard it directly from Trump. That's the central issue here. How sharp do you need to be to realize that?
    One of those in charge of reviewing it was Vindmann's brother so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    The NYT's never directly quoted Mr. Bolton from his book. I now wonder if the Times was fed out of context passages or they themselves omitted context to further a narrative.
    Or just made it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Bolton claims he never gave the manuscript to anyone except the White House. Bolton, a Republican, gave his still classified manuscript to the Republican controlled White House. Yet the dems planned to leak it all along? Spare me your deep state conspiracy theories.

    Even if this really were a part of one of Republican's paranoid nonsense deep state conspiracy theories, it doesn't change the truth of the matter: Bolton heard it directly from Trump. That's the central issue here. How sharp do you need to be to realize that?
    *it doesn't change the truth of the matter: Bolton heard it directly from Trump.*

    You have no idea what the truth is in this matter. All you're doing is spreading gossip from a NYT's opinion piece disguised as breaking news. Shame on you

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