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Thread: Climate Models Are Running Red Hot, and Scientists Don’t Know Why

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    This isn't debatable. Your side runs entirely on bribe money. Our side is free of corrupting bribes. That's why your side produces only fraud and sleaze, while the rational and ethical side produces stellar science.

    You make this too easy. For example, Willie Soon pocketed at least a sweet 1.25 million dollars.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nergy-industry

    William Happer runs a publish-for-pay business.

    https://grist.org/article/undercover...fuel-industry/

    Roy Spencer takes money from the Koch/Exxon dark money web.

    https://www.facingsouth.org/2011/09/...stry-ties.html

    Anthony Watts is on the Heartland Institute payroll.

    Curry is more subtle. She runs a "forecasting company", which never publishes any original forecasts. It just parrots the public forecasts. It also keeps the client list secret. Given Curry's historical ineptness at forecasting, nobody would actually pay her for a forecast. It's a front company. She collects the money for "forecasting", and in return produces the propaganda that her buyers want.

    I could keep going on, but you get the point. All of the denier scientists are on the take.
    however, that doesn't answer why Florida isn't under water or covered by a glacier. Why is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    You presented a story that said _future_ predictions were running hotter.

    That doesn't change the fact that past models have been excellent.

    Given how good past models have been, why do all deniers state or imply the exact opposite?
    That said scientists said the models are running too hot.

    You be the denier here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    This isn't debatable. Your side runs entirely on bribe money. Our side is free of corrupting bribes. That's why your side produces only fraud and sleaze, while the rational and ethical side produces stellar science.

    You make this too easy. For example, Willie Soon pocketed at least a sweet 1.25 million dollars.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nergy-industry

    William Happer runs a publish-for-pay business.

    https://grist.org/article/undercover...fuel-industry/

    Roy Spencer takes money from the Koch/Exxon dark money web.

    https://www.facingsouth.org/2011/09/...stry-ties.html

    Anthony Watts is on the Heartland Institute payroll.

    Curry is more subtle. She runs a "forecasting company", which never publishes any original forecasts. It just parrots the public forecasts. It also keeps the client list secret. Given Curry's historical ineptness at forecasting, nobody would actually pay her for a forecast. It's a front company. She collects the money for "forecasting", and in return produces the propaganda that her buyers want.

    I could keep going on, but you get the point. All of the denier scientists are on the take.
    The denier attacks messengers because he cannot attack their messages.

    Mamooth knows not the science. Fake.
    Last edited by Chris; 03-17-2020 at 08:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That said scientists said the models are running too hot.
    _Future_ model predictions. And yet you and all the deniers are lying by at least implying that past predictions have run hot. Very dishonest of you all.

    Previously, you could have been excused by your general ignorance of the this topic. After all, if it didn't come from a conspiracy blog, then deniers are forbidden to know it. However, since I've explained it in small words and deniers are still pretending not to understand, it appears their deception is deliberate.

    The denier attacks messengers because he cannot attack their messages.
    Can you tone down your rank hypocrisy here? You and all the deniers have spent the thread in a big circle jerk attacking the reputations of the scientists.

    That's typical behavior for deniers, flat-earthers, antivaxxers, 9/11 truthers and every form of conspiracy cultist. The hard data always contradicts cult dogma, so the conspiracy cultist sees no option other than attacking the source of the data.

    Mamooth knows not the science. Fake.
    Which is why you posted a cut-and-paste, and then started running when I began actually discussing it. You're a cut-and-paste parrot, while I have an excellent understanding of the actual science.
    Last edited by mamooth; 03-19-2020 at 02:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    however, that doesn't answer why Florida isn't under water or covered by a glacier. Why is that?
    Don't ask us to explain your kook theories. You're the only one who keeps saying that, so you'll have explain it. Why do you think Florida should be underwater or covered by a glacier now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    _Future_ model predictions. And yet you and all the deniers are lying by at least implying that past predictions have run hot. Very dishonest of you all.

    Previously, you could have been excused by your general ignorance of the this topic. After all, if it didn't come from a conspiracy blog, then deniers are forbidden to know it. However, since I've explained it in small words and deniers are still pretending not to understand, it appears their deception is deliberate.



    Can you tone down your rank hypocrisy here? You and all the deniers have spent the thread in a big circle jerk attacking the reputations of the scientists.

    That's typical behavior for deniers, flat-earthers, antivaxxers, 9/11 truthers and every form of conspiracy cultist. The hard data always contradicts cult dogma, so the conspiracy cultist sees no option other than attacking the source of the data.



    Which is why you posted a cut-and-paste, and then started running when I began actually discussing it. You're a cut-and-paste parrot, while I have an excellent understanding of the actual science.


    _Future_ model predictions.
    What do you think predictions are about but for the _future_.

    And that's the entire basis of your denial of science!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    What do you think predictions are about but for the _future_.
    You're not actually that dumb. You're just trolling now.

    As usual, I'll take your descent into troll mode as your admission that you had no response to getting busted again for dishonesty and hypocrisy. I'm guessing most others will take it that way too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    You're not actually that dumb. You're just trolling now.

    As usual, I'll take your descent into troll mode as your admission that you had no response to getting busted again for dishonesty and hypocrisy. I'm guessing most others will take it that way too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Uhoh, something's gone wrong with the models: Climate Models Are Running Red Hot, and Scientists Don’t Know Why

    I have heard that for every acre of farm land lost to GW or lost for our large mono cultures more than an acre would become farmable in the north because of the warming. It stands to reason that at least an equal amount would open up

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I have heard that for every acre of farm land lost to GW or lost for our large mono cultures more than an acre would become farmable in the north because of the warming. It stands to reason that at least an equal amount would open up
    Right, GW is not just loss but gain as well.
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