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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Bullsh!t! Obama did NOT reduce unemployment. He did every thing he could to create more welfare recipients
    More regulations = higher unemployment. just ask the coal miners
    LMAO. You're not ready for this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Well, gee, Galt, that's what I said TPR liberals argue--when they don't argue the economy is a disaster.

    Pay attention.
    That's not what you said. Pay attention. You referenced valid arguments as being 'anti trump'. I know that the truth is painful for trump and his supporters, but it's an unfortunate, pesky thing. Just look at the nonsense Stjames posted. It should be embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    The economy collapsed in 2008 , not because of bad politics , but because of the lack of good politics . The FED took over and began propping up a broken economy , using money that is not theirs to use.........ultimately , the people end up with the bill for this deception.
    You want politicians to regulate Wall St?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Yea, I hear it driving listening to TPR (Texas Public Radio). There is a big push to undermine current prosperity, from things aren't so good under Trump, just look at this or that, those groups, usually identity groups, aren't doing so well. Or, in contradiction, say it is doing well but not because of Trump but Obama.

    It's all anti-Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    That's not what you said. Pay attention. You referenced valid arguments as being 'anti trump'. I know that the truth is painful for trump and his supporters, but it's an unfortunate, pesky thing. Just look at the nonsense Stjames posted. It should be embarrassing.

    Don't keep lying, Galt, that is what I said.

    And, yes, current liberal arguments are all anti-Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Bullsh!t! Obama did NOT reduce unemployment. He did every thing he could to create more welfare recipients
    More regulations = higher unemployment. just ask the coal miners
    Baloney
    One can be sure that he who says he knows knows nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Rush is on Public Radio in Texas? Whenever Democrats reference Obama, it's to dispel one of trump's lies about creating the best economy in the history of the world. The jobs numbers, notwithstanding his claims, were better under Obama. Sure...it's easy to put up numbers when you came into office with the economy losing almost 1 million jobs/month, but why does trump have to lie about everything?

    Obama slashed black unemployment by about 5 or 6 points, and trump reduced it by 2. Still, trump takes credit for 'record black employment'.
    Record black unemployment numbers. The numbers don't lie but democrats usually do.
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    Obama came in with Civilian Employment numbers at 59.3% and left at 59.7%
    That is + 0.4% over 8 years

    Trump came is at 59.7% and we are at 61.2%
    That is + 0.5% over 3 years

    That comes out to a job creation rate that is 333% of Obamas per year

    My source is the BLS A-1 tables
    https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea01.htm

    Obama used Disability, welfare roles, government jobs and other methods to take people off the unemployment roles. Many people were also forced into early retirement because they could not find work under Obama.

    Then when you look at the growth in average income being a 13 times higher rate under Trump than under Obama, so you can easily speculate that Trump jobs are higher quality jobs than Obama jobs.

    Jobs created is a bogus stat. That is a number used when they don't like the other numbers. It can one person being given a job for life or just short term employment changes.
    Unemployment stats never make much sense when you look at employment because it only counts those that say they want to work. How many times did I have to hear "can you just sign my form".

    We still have about 3% of the public that are slugs and should be working to get back to the Clinton and Reagan employment years.
    The BabyBoomer shift is a farce as an excuse because we moved the retirement age to equate to that shift. When I looked at the population shift from those years, it matched the number of years they shifted the retirement ages.



    Some will claim that baby boomers are retiring

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    The economy is in shambles; and the Democrats caused it!

    The economy is in shambles. That's why Obama is out there now trying to take credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    You want politicians to regulate Wall St?
    john hes a hard core socialist and commie hes pro china pro Russia pro Cuba pro Syria pro Iran and anti American his post have clearly showed that time and time again, hes all for anything that will bring America down or convert us to hard core socialist state or commies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    The economy is in shambles; and the Democrats caused it!

    The economy is in shambles. That's why Obama is out there now trying to take credit.
    Anything but Trump!
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