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[gamewell45]

I agree that the Republicans should have done something about Russian interference in our elections. Had the Republicans acted, Hillary would be in PRISON.

https://www.investors.com/politics/e...investigation/

The release of the FISA application by the FBI to investigate alleged collusion between Russia and President Trump's campaign and recent comments made by top officials are eye opening.

Not only did President Obama know about the investigation, he seems to have pushed it from the very beginning.

But don't take our word for it. Here's what Obama's Director of National Intelligence, the nation's former spy master, James Clapper, told CNN's Anderson Cooper:

"If it weren't for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of event which are still unfolding today, including Special Counsel (Robert) Mueller's investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place."



The ONLY people who broke laws and colluded with Russia are Democrats. And they are walking free today because the Republicans didn't do their job and go after those criminals.

That's because both parties are corrupt. They need to go.

[gamewell45]

Okay, what the reference I can go look up and read? The House passes crap legislation all the time. So one must actually read the bill. The notion, however, a US law can enforced on another country, however, on the face of it, is ridiculous. Maybe if there was US aid on the line might you influence another countries politicians to acquiesce, but that would be a quid pro quo. And although such 'influence' may be as old as the concept of a rock, there are some, who come along in time, and wish to make hay of it.

You have to keep in mind that what you feel may be "crap legislation" they might feel is legitimate legislation needed for the country and what you may consider legislation needed for the country may be "crap legislation" in their viewpoint. It's a two-way street.

Based on the current mindset by certain members in both Houses of Congress, Quid Pro Quo is acceptable so if US aid was on the line it's okay to influence other countries politicians to acquiesce since it is not apparently a violation of law or ethics.

[Just AnotherPerson]

That's because both parties are corrupt. They need to go.

Aint' that the absolute truth!!!!

[testsubjectalpha]

45, we are a nation of laws. Not a nation of a few select politicians feelings on a particular subject. I remember when Harry Reid, under Obama, after the opposing party took the house, sat on House passed legislation and never voted on it.

We have an interesting form of Gov't that differs from the Parliamentarian system. It's a system that makes change very difficult instead of very easy. We do not live in a popular Democracy, we live in a Republic. Mr Boot Edge Edge has a problem with this and would like to change our Constitution to allow for mob rule. That is my problem with him.

You have to keep in mind that what you feel may be "crap legislation" they might feel is legitimate legislation needed for the country and what you may consider legislation needed for the country may be "crap legislation" in their viewpoint. It's a two-way street.

Based on the current mindset by certain members in both Houses of Congress, Quid Pro Quo is acceptable so if US aid was on the line it's okay to influence other countries politicians to acquiesce since it is not apparently a violation of law or ethics.

[gamewell45]

45, we are a nation of laws. Not a nation of a few select politicians feelings on a particular subject. I remember when Harry Reid, under Obama, after the opposing party took the house, sat on House passed legislation and never voted on it.

We have an interesting form of Gov't that differs from the Parliamentarian system. It's a system that makes change very difficult instead of very easy. We do not live in a popular Democracy, we live in a Republic. Mr Boot Edge Edge has a problem with this and would like to change our Constitution to allow for mob rule. That is my problem with him.

Agreed we are a nation of laws; unfortunately the laws don't apply equally to everyone, but I get that. Maybe that'll change come November but if not, then in four years.

I have an issue with all of the democrats running for office along with the republican party candidates running for re-election/election as well although I think that Governor Bill Weld comes closest to getting it right.

[testsubjectalpha]

Yes 45, the Mueller Russian collusion thing has brought a spot light onto the various parties who violate the same criminal statutes and who gets prosecuted and who does not. A Navy submarine sailor comes to mind in contrast to a high level politician, as does a private citizen who doesn't tell the truth in contrast to a senior level FBI employee, or two.

Are you working on the Bill Weld campaign for the Republican nomination for President of the United States? If so, let's hear your pitch.

Agreed we are a nation of laws; unfortunately the laws don't apply equally to everyone, but I get that. Maybe that'll change come November but if not, then in four years.

I have an issue with all of the democrats running for office along with the republican party candidates running for re-election/election as well although I think that Governor Bill Weld comes closest to getting it right.

[Padme]

IMO Americans should form a third party to go against the traditional political parties in this country. Only then will we have a glimmer of hope.

There is already a third party... It is called the Libertarian party. Heck, there is already a fourth party!! It is called the Socialist Party of America AKA "Democratic Socialists of America"... There is the "Green Party" whatever that means. It is not about the political parties running countries and it doesn't matter if they are two or more... It is about their philosophy and what is it that they want to do with "power." ... Democrats -and now worse-the socialist faction "Democratic Socialists of America" do not work for you, or me, or anybody other than themselves and that is here, in USA or any other part in the world.

[gamewell45]

Yes 45, the Mueller Russian collusion thing has brought a spot light onto the various parties who violate the same criminal statutes and who gets prosecuted and who does not. A Navy submarine sailor comes to mind in contrast to a high level politician, as does a private citizen who doesn't tell the truth in contrast to a senior level FBI employee, or two.

Are you working on the Bill Weld campaign for the Republican nomination for President of the United States? If so, let's hear your pitch.

No I'm not involved in his campaign; so this is not a "pitch" just that I think his policies, while not perfect, are headed in the right direction.

[gamewell45]

There is already a third party... It is called the Libertarian party. Heck, there is already a fourth party!! It is called the Socialist Party of America AKA "Democratic Socialists of America"... There is the "Green Party" whatever that means. It is not about the political parties running countries and it doesn't matter if they are two or more... It is about their philosophy and what is it that they want to do with "power." ... Democrats -and now worse-the socialist faction "Democratic Socialists of America" do not work for you, or me, or anybody other than themselves and that is here, in USA or any other part in the world.

To be fair, nor does the republican party as well, they are a part of the same problem. One of our posters came up with an alternative to the two major parties which I think is headed in the right direction. It is known as the "Kitchen Table Party". Go and check out that thread; I think you'll find it makes a lot of sense.


You mentioned you were not sure what the "Green Party" means, therefore I'm including a link which will help to educate you on the party and what they stand for.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_..._United_States

[testsubjectalpha]

I'm game, I've not been following Bill for President. Give me some examples of what policies of Bill's you believe deserve consideration.