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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Why US firms are desperate to retain ageing workers. This is interesting. Here at our firm, we struggle to find anyone under 35 that is willing to work the long hard hours that it takes to be a litigator. Speaking with other firms and other businesses, our experience is not alone. Pay is not the issue. We pay well as do the business is that I have spoken with. The issue is that that age group tends to want to “have a life“ rather than drive the career.

    there are not enough millennials willing to work hard.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49075955
    Most older workers are frowned upon because they are too expensive for companies. I know that in the transportation industry millennials come and go almost monthly due to no permanence and lousy benefits, and they have this aversion to work as you point out.

    My wife was laid off with a coworker having spent over eleven years at their jobs and they being over 50 at the time. I retired from the Teamsters, and good riddance to the trucking industry: our competition became three immigrants in the seat of a bobtail truck! which I'm sure you've seen.

    The business climate in America has built a temporary climate for cheap labor and computers have created a generation of young workers that don't know anything but Twitter, so business has made its bed...

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    I don't know what you do about lack of attention span due to computers. Nothing about computers lends to concentration, in my opinion.

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    We have a problem. It is called Affirmative Action aka a Reverse Discrimination policy.

    If I hire a person over 50 then I have to worry about an age discrimination law suit if they do not work out.
    If I hire a minority then I face a law suit from the EEOC or the employee.
    Then we get into the issues with hiring a woman then you have the pregnancy issues and sexual harassment claims.

    If you hire a younger white guy then you do not have any issues if they do not work out.
    A lawyer will say that as long as you document everything correctly then you will win your case.
    What a lawyer does not say is how much the bill will be and that I may even have to hire the employee back in the interim.

    I was forced to hire back a child molester who they hauled out of my place for raping his daughter. He was a bad worker for attendance and output. Turned out he was also native American. So the EEOC threatened to sue me and we had to employ him before he went to jail.

    It costs almost nothing to sue but it is very expensive to defend law suits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    "physical labor"? dont you be blasphemin' up in here!!!!! as a kid i did load 100 pound bags into the cropdusters at grandmas.
    When I was in high school a local lumber yard offered three of us $100 bucks a piece and lunch on a Saturday to help unload a train car. Downside was the boxcar was filled with bags of cement. Stacked only three or four high, it appeared to be "duck soup". Wore the skin off my wrists, even with gloves. Toughest "hunski" I ever earned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    We have a problem. It is called Affirmative Action aka a Reverse Discrimination policy.

    If I hire a person over 50 then I have to worry about an age discrimination law suit if they do not work out.
    If I hire a minority then I face a law suit from the EEOC or the employee.
    Then we get into the issues with hiring a woman then you have the pregnancy issues and sexual harassment claims.

    If you hire a younger white guy then you do not have any issues if they do not work out.
    A lawyer will say that as long as you document everything correctly then you will win your case.
    What a lawyer does not say is how much the bill will be and that I may even have to hire the employee back in the interim.

    I was forced to hire back a child molester who they hauled out of my place for raping his daughter. He was a bad worker for attendance and output. Turned out he was also native American. So the EEOC threatened to sue me and we had to employ him before he went to jail.

    It costs almost nothing to sue but it is very expensive to defend law suits.
    You make the most inept and incompetent posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You make the most inept and incompetent posts.

    LOL. Maybe to you because you are a nobody and have never done anything.

    You don't take unnecessary legal risks and if you are going to take the risk then they better have a lot more to offer than the alternatives. Professionals at the end of their carreers often end up as private contractors now to get hired. They used to be the most valuable employees to steal from your competitors when there was no legal consequences imposed by the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You make the most inept and incompetent posts.
    But she's right...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You make the most inept and incompetent posts.
    quite frankly Cat-fucious is ap-pawed at your statement!

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    I thought it was going to be DG the Civil Rights lawyer that would rip into me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    I thought it was going to be DG the Civil Rights lawyer that would rip into me.
    Insurance Defense Lawyer.
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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