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    I don't think many private sellers would bother with background checks especially if they are selling to family or friends. I was part of a group of 3 cops, 1 DEA agent and me who sold / traded with each other, no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    VA new gun laws

    VA passed a couple of new gun laws- background checks for all gun sales (including private) and only one gun purchase per month unless you have a carry conceal license. Happily the more crazy proposals were rejected by the Senate- the extensive "assault" weapon ban that included common pistols and others.
    Reasonable.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    Reasonable.
    I bet they will go for more to include the over broad assault weapons ban (which got many common pistols). It makes one question the wisdom of a CC permit- which is effectively a registration of those gun owners. A total gun ban is supported by many of the hard left here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I bet they will go for more to include the over broad assault weapons ban (which got many common pistols). It makes one question the wisdom of a CC permit- which is effectively a registration of those gun owners. A total gun ban is supported by many of the hard left here.
    Because the term has no specific meaning it's hardly surprising that an "assault weapons" ban is overbroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    Reasonable.
    There is nothing reasonable in those laws.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    So really, background checks only apply to law abiding citizens. What then is the point?
    The point is to hold the threat of a serious punishment over the heads of honest citizens in order to get them to do as the State wants them to do. As D says, that's what most laws come down to - controlling people's actions.

    Is a requirement for a background check on private sales an infringement of the Second Amendment? To be honest, I'm undecided. As a lifelong contrarian by nature, it irks me; it inconveniences thousands of honest, law-abiding citizens in an attempt to deter a handful of people who are already committing crimes, of one kind or another, with the weapons they're buying or selling. It makes far more sense to me to increase the penalties for those who purchase firearms in private sales and then violate existing laws by transporting them across state lines and/or committing crimes with them. The State should focus its punitive energies on the actual criminals, rather than trying to make ordinary citizens into criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Yes, or something like it. I don't think it unreasonable that one undergo a background check prior to purchasing a firearm. I'm certainly open to the idea at any rate. I had one for every firearm I've purchased. I was turned down once but that was my fault for being too lazy to get my NJ Drivers License updated. Enforcing that on private sales would be difficult no doubt but the understanding that you are committing a felony would be enough to deter many people. I'm certainly not passionate about it because, like you, I realize what's going on and what the goal of gun control advocates is. They want the nation's gun laws to reflect those in places like Chicago and D.C. No thanks.
    You already have to have a backround check to buy a gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    VA new gun laws

    VA passed a couple of new gun laws- background checks for all gun sales (including private) and only one gun purchase per month unless you have a carry conceal license. Happily the more crazy proposals were rejected by the Senate- the extensive "assault" weapon ban that included common pistols and others.

    ...so if I go to Virginia and sell three...count em'...three... guns to Mike, or we both swap one gun for another, we are required by this new law to perform background checks on each other?

    I say...UNENFORCEABLE.

    Anything you do as a private sale is unenforceable.
    How many times you do it is also unenforceable.

    Yet another bureaucratic law meant to make those on the left feel good and make them think they have actually done something.
    ...when in fact, they did nothing at all to stop gun violence.
    The honest and hard working citizens of Virginia are NOT the ones committing those crimes.

    ...and as we all know....this has nothing to do with crime.

    It is 100% about POWER.
    Citizens with the means to shoot back are a problem for them.
    When it is not allowed to be questioned, it is not science, it is PROPAGANDA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin308 View Post
    ...so if I go to Virginia and sell three...count em'...three... guns to Mike, or we both swap one gun for another, we are required by this new law to perform background checks on each other?

    I say...UNENFORCEABLE.

    Anything you do as a private sale is unenforceable.
    How many times you do it is also unenforceable.

    Yet another bureaucratic law meant to make those on the left feel good and make them think they have actually done something.
    ...when in fact, they did nothing at all to stop gun violence.
    The honest and hard working citizens of Virginia are NOT the ones committing those crimes.

    ...and as we all know....this has nothing to do with crime.

    It is 100% about POWER.
    Citizens with the means to shoot back are a problem for them.
    To me private backround checks are a pretty well a waste of time. Its just a way to tax gun owners. Criminal s perfer stolen guns they pick up cheap to free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Because the term has no specific meaning it's hardly surprising that an "assault weapons" ban is overbroad.
    Remember the " Saturday Night Special " handgun bans and attempted bans of the 60's ???

    Just like this one, the term is not clearly defined.

    It was so vague some even included the excellent and well-made Walther PPK from Germany.

    For everyone else, this is the famous James Bond gun.


    This is their tactic. Throw out a broad, scary generic name for a gun so you can scare people into banning it.
    When actually, few weapons fit the narrow definition in the first place.

    My definition of an "assault rifle " is...

    1. Used and issued by a nation's military...AND...

    a. is select fire. You get to select if you want full auto, burst, or semi-auto.

    b. it fires an intermediate round. Not a full power rifle round such as the 7.62 NATO, or the Russian 7.62R....and NOT a pistol caliber either. It is INTERMEDIATE in power between the two.

    c. ect...ect...ect... with other technical stuff.


    THE hard left gun banner's definition of an " assault rifle " is..... IT SCARES ME TO LOOK AT IT !!!

    If they are scared when they look at it, then it is an "assault rifle".

    I played with this when i was a kid. The Johnny 7 OMA (One Man Army)
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    Last edited by Retirednsmilin308; 03-08-2020 at 03:12 AM.
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