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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I found one political scientist who used "corporate fascism" in the title of his article but within the first few sentences switched to corporatocracy. That would be more descriptive and accurate, for we live in a time where capitalism can be defined as the state serving special interest groups like large corporations, unions, even identity groups (the contemporary replacement for class). Fascist corporations where groups like industry, agriculture, guilds (unions) etc, true, but they were the rod serving the ax, the state.



    Fascism is used by the OP pejoratively, inflammatorily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Well, back in the 20's and 30's there was far more recognition of the creeping fascism in America: https://roarmag.org/essays/american-...m-book-review/


    Not that I think it will make one iota of difference to you. However, there were books written about it.
    Right. The government was basically funding brown-shirts to suppress all dissidents with the official line.

    There was a fascist movement on the right, but nobody paid attention and it died.
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    Should there be punishment for people who claim fascism and xenophobia exist today? Or should we be content with just calling them retarded? I am leaning toward corporeal punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Should there be punishment for people who claim fascism and xenophobia exist today? Or should we be content with just calling them retarded? I am leaning toward corporeal punishment.
    Judging by the reaction being corrected was punishment enough.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Right. The government was basically funding brown-shirts to suppress all dissidents with the official line.

    There was a fascist movement on the right, but nobody paid attention and it died.
    I believe the Black Legion and the Silver Legion were mentioned above without also saying the first was an offshoot of the KKK, a Democratic organization, and the second was a form of nazism.

    During the 1930s Virgil Effinger led the paramilitary Black Legion, a violent offshoot of the Ku Klux Klan that sought a revolution to establish fascism in the United States.[19] Although responsible for a number of attacks, the Black Legion was very much a peripheral band of militants. More important were the Silver Legion of America, founded in 1933 by William Dudley Pelley, and the German American Bund, which emerged the same year from a number of older groups, including the Friends of New Germany and the Free Society of Teutonia. Both of these groups looked to Nazism for their inspiration.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_in_North_America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Should there be punishment for people who claim fascism and xenophobia exist today? Or should we be content with just calling them retarded? I am leaning toward corporeal punishment.
    "corporeal punishment" for those who say "corporate fascism."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I believe the Black Legion and the Silver Legion were mentioned above without also saying the first was an offshoot of the KKK, a Democratic organization, and the second was a form of nazism.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism_in_North_America

    The aim of most ahistorical, anachronistic rants and raves against fascism is to link them to the right when they're not. Fascism, imo, is neither left nor right.
    It was billed as the Third Way. Achieved through authoritarianism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    "corporeal punishment" for those who say "corporate fascism."
    Why not?
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    "Political Science" is an oxymoron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It was billed as the Third Way. Achieved through authoritarianism.
    Right. It was designed so that corporations (industry, agriculture, military, etc) served the state.

    Socialism/communism also authoritarian.

    Democracy/capitalism, undermining social order and shared values, can also easily drift into authoritarianism.
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