I never heard of any source saying this other then you and I dont know you or even if your legit. Nothing personal. I do know there was some actual chemical weapons found in Iraq but it was very little and mostly residue. The CIA probably knows what happened to Saddams huge stockpile, I assume he either sent most of it to Syria or destroyed it. Most of it was stored in precursor form, especially the nerve agents, cause they have a shelf life when mixed. Its doubtful he even mixed any since he never intended to use them or even have them found. His son in Law defected to Jordan and ratted him out on the locations of his arsenal and from there they went <poof>. Most were already destroyed anyway.
Nerve agents are 1930's era technology. Hitler had sarin and soman he could have used in WW2 and VX was discovered shortly after.
Fake History 101, The bombing of Dresden.
German propaganda was aided by an anti-war book by Kurt Vonnegut "Slaughterhouse Five" where he created the myth that Dresden not only had no military targets and was a helpless civilian city but also that 100,000 perished in the Allied air attacks in February 1945. At the time several western newspapers, including the NY Times, printed this account of Scandinavian newspapers, which were planted by German propagandists. Thus this is where Vonnegut got his info. No doubt it was a terrible event but the Germans themselves counted 25,000 to 30,000 dead and if its one thing the Germans were good at it was counting bodies.
At the time the slaughterer in Europe was at its height, especially in the east, but also in the west where we had just stopped the Germans in the battle of the bulge which is the single largest battle the US Army every fought. And at great cost. Vonnegut himself was captured during it.
Dresden was a major road and rail center for troop and material transfer to the eastern front and our Russian allies wanted it bombed because they were taking heavy losses. Remember that in the period between 20 Jul '44, when the attempt was made on Hitlers life, and the end of the war in May of '45, there were more deaths in Europe then in the previous five years. Also Dresden had over 100 war material factories including the main one for Zeiss optics which made the sighting systems for all of Germany's weaponry. They made torpedo's there, U-boat parts, aircraft parts, field radios and telephones, shells and ammunition, and employed over 50,000 workers and slave laborers making military equipment alone. It was only about 90 miles from the eastern front and usually moved 28 troops trains and 20,000 soldiers alone per day.
It was in fact a major military target of a still very dangerous enemy. The mount killed in Dresden was about the same as the British civilians killed by Hitlers V-weapons alone. But because of this leaked bunch of propo, picked up by the western news, it became a symbol for the anti-war bunch in the '60s even tho it was based on a Lie. Churchill himself distanced himself from the attack to try and get re-elected and refused to give Air Marshall Harris a Victoria Cross for his service in turning the air war around.
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I was in Dresden - passing through heading to Prague and then Romania. The Germans are still pissed that we bombed Dresden.
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MisterVeritis (04-04-2020)
"War? what war"? . "Jews? What Jews"? Finding a Nazi after the surrender was harder then finding food. To this day the fake Dresden bombing story persists.
Luckily with todays advanced weaponry there will never be another such bombing of a city, short of nuclear holocaust, but Dresden most definitely was a legitimate military target and there was no other way to neutralize it with the tech of 1945 then with the aerial bombing we used. Hitler and the Nazi's killed those people not the allies.
Remember the V weapons, especially V-2s of which there was no defense against, flew against British and mainland targets until the end of March 1945 for two months after Dresden. At the time many thought the war was going to last much longer then 8 May '45. American KIA's alone from D-Day to May were 105,000. It was pure luck we secured a bridge over the Rhine at Remagen in March '45 when the Germans screwed up the destruction of it, were it not for that we'd had never shut down the Ruhr Industry.
Compare Dresden to the 27 m Soviet deaths during the war. Germany exterminated over 11 m people of all kinds which included 6 m Jewish civilians alone. Many thousands of slave laborers were dying every day the war lasted and we still had Japan to beat. The battle of Berlin alone cost the lives of over 81,000 Russians and almost 1/2 million Germans. At the time of Dresden we already knew of the German atrocities and their intent to fight it out until the end ; We had every reason to expect a much longer war and there was no reason to spare such an important transportation and Industrial hub on the eastern edge of the Reich.
MisterVeritis (04-04-2020),Peter1469 (04-02-2020)
Yeah I could have saved you the trouble had you actually read my posts.
Slaughterhouse Five was hardly a piece of Historical research. Remember? The POW who became a Ophthalmologist/time traveler and ended up in a Alien zoo where he had sex with a porn star for the entertainment of the invisible aliens that lives in another dimension? I suppose it was a better life then most victims of Alien abduction but he did sell the book using the propaganda of Josef Goebbels and the sentiment of the Vietnam war.I’m sure as a prisoner of war, he had some singular insight to what you replied to. What do you think that was?
I liked the book and dont doubt the attack on Dresden was horrible like all the killing of WW2 was. Thru History this is what happens when Totalitarian states ran by megalomaniacs and fanatics run the show. We'll never know what he put in the book was real or not and it probably doesn't matter. But one thing that wasn't was the account of Josef Goebbels and his propaganda machine Vonnegut repeated time and time again.
So it goes.
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Captdon (04-05-2020)
British historian David Irving knows more on the subject of WWII than any historian. The bombing of Dresden was a vindictive act.
How some forget what George Washington said in his farewell address for America to stay out of foreign entanglements. They can't grasp why he said it.
The world has slipped into hell, and whose fault is it? What has happened to Europe since the allies took the side of red communists to destroy Europe?
If Germany had kept the filthy Weimar Republic intact, but the whole point was to destroy Germany...the whole point all along...
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