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    Post It's not just me!! We worked harder than today's young lawyers, nearly half say

    We worked harder than today's young lawyers, nearly half of surveyed partners say -- I am constantly criticized by my partners for the above quote. I believe it to be true. I think it's b/c we have babied them. When we were young lawyers, they took a whip to us -- weekends, nights, projects dumped on our desk on Friday, etc. OMG - that would never happen today.




    https://www.nalp.org/uploads/Generat...tMarch2020.pdf

    https://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...sfmc_u=6351532


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    The younger generation expect a different work / life balance than the older generations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The younger generation expect a different work / life balance than the older generations.
    That's not always a bad thing. A certain percentage of most jobs consists of large doses of completely unnecessary, soul-crushing angst, drama and b.s. How many people have you met who went out of their way to make their own job appear to be more complex and difficult than it needed to be, simply to enhance their own image and feed their own ego? How many bosses compensate for their own deficiencies in planning and staffing by dumping an unrealistic amount of "time sensitive" work on their underlings at the last minute?

    Or as Tuco the Ugly - aka the late Eli Wallach - in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly put it, "If you work for a living, why do you kill yourself working?"
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    I didn't say whether it was a good thing or a bad thing.

    I picked my post-military career with work life balance in mind, among other considerations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    That's not always a bad thing. A certain percentage of most jobs consists of large doses of completely unnecessary, soul-crushing angst, drama and b.s. How many people have you met who went out of their way to make their own job appear to be more complex and difficult than it needed to be, simply to enhance their own image and feed their own ego? How many bosses compensate for their own deficiencies in planning and staffing by dumping an unrealistic amount of "time sensitive" work on their underlings at the last minute?

    Or as Tuco the Ugly - aka the late Eli Wallach - in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly put it, "If you work for a living, why do you kill yourself working?"
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    One thing never changes...older folks will always complain about younger people and claim to have had it harder than them.

    They walked ten miles to school though a blizzard, up hill, both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The younger generation expect a different work / life balance than the older generations.
    That is about as absolute a truth as there is.

    My issue with it is they expect it, demand it, and even if you don't relent, they still do what suits them. While most employers understand things have changed some, being treated like they've done us an honor by showing up at all makes me spit nails.
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    LOL, where have I heard all this before?





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    I get it... but the young lawyers today want 1700 billable hour targets. We had a 2000 hour target. I’ve never seen an associate in the office on the weekend. They all worked from home in March. Let’s see what their production was. Mine was 219.8 billed hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I get it... but the young lawyers today want 1700 billable hour targets. We had a 2000 hour target. I’ve never seen an associate in the office on the weekend. They all worked from home in March. Let’s see what their production was. Mine was 219.8 billed hours.
    They won't be anywhere near that. I wonder how much you charge per hour.

    Here in DC an equity partner in a government contracts practice charges a bit over $1000 an hour.

    When I have cases against the Big Law firms and when it is clear that I am going to win on the merits, I do screw with them to rack up the billable hours. That way the contractor who sued us gets to pay more in the end.
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    $1000? No. Here's the 2013 study for Ohio: https://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionla...rtarian643.pdf

    PM an email and I'll send the 2019 study. It's behind the OBAR member log in so I can't link to it.
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