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    Racial Disparity in Virus Fatality Rates?

    If true, and I don't think we'll really know for a few months, why would this be happening? Fauci seems to think it's linked to black people being fatter in general. I don't put a lot of stock in what Fauci says, he changes his mind at the drop of a hat, but here's his reasoning:

    ..." it’s not that they are getting infected more often, it’s that when they do get infected their underlying medical conditions — the diabetes, hypertension, the obesity, the asthma — those are the kind of things that wind them up in the ICU and ultimately give him a higher death rate
    https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/anthon...aids-epidemic/

    I find this odd because (in my opinion) blacks often seem to be more athletic than whites. But, I will agree that there are some pretty large black women around -- yet -- there are some pretty large white women as well, and more males that females seem to be succumbing to the virus, so that probably isn't it.

    Are blacks taking fewer precautions? I doubt that -- although early on I remember hearing rumors that blacks were less susceptible than whites and I suppose that might have led some to relax their social distancing.

    Poverty could play a role -- the poor may have less access to disinfecting product to keep themselves and their homes virus free. That seems to be a factor in Native American populations.

    To prevent the spread of Covid-19,CDC guidelines ask individuals to wash their hands and sanitize all surfaces — both of which require access to clean water. However, according to the National Institutes of Health, 13 percent of Native American homes lack safe water or adequate wastewater disposal facilities, compared to the national average of less than 1 percent. Advocates are asking for $1 billion in assistance for safe water and sanitation systems in Indian Country, short of the $5 billion the Government Accountability Office says is needed to cover all tribal areas.
    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/25/211926...ricans-indians

    I have boxes of disinfectants and hand sanitizers, complements of our son who keeps bringing things over even though we've run out of room to store them. But, I can understand if families have limited finances, they may opt for food before they stock up on overpriced cleaners. Yet, more whites live in poverty than minorities, so the numbers shouldn't really skew for that reason.

    It could be job-related. Do more minorities work in the service industry? Food service, perhaps? Is it more difficult for them to practice social distancing?

    “This is a call-to-action moment for all of us,” said Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, who announced statistics of the outbreak in her city this week. African-Americans account for more than half of those who have tested positive and 72 percent of virus-related fatalities in Chicago, even though they make up a little less than a third of the population.

    In Illinois, 43 percent of people who have died from the disease and 28 percent of those who have tested positive are African-Americans, a group that makes up just 15 percent of the state’s population. African-Americans, who account for a third of positive tests in Michigan, represent 40 percent of deaths in that state even though they make up 14 percent of the population. In Louisiana, about 70 percent of the people who have died are black, though only a third of that state’s population is.
    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IL

    Those are some pretty stark numbers, so the question is -- why? And, what has to change to reduce it?
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    I think it is the underlying health conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    If true, and I don't think we'll really know for a few months, why would this be happening? Fauci seems to think it's linked to black people being fatter in general. I don't put a lot of stock in what Fauci says, he changes his mind at the drop of a hat, but here's his reasoning:


    https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/anthon...aids-epidemic/

    I find this odd because (in my opinion) blacks often seem to be more athletic than whites. But, I will agree that there are some pretty large black women around -- yet -- there are some pretty large white women as well, and more males that females seem to be succumbing to the virus, so that probably isn't it.

    Are blacks taking fewer precautions? I doubt that -- although early on I remember hearing rumors that blacks were less susceptible than whites and I suppose that might have led some to relax their social distancing.

    Poverty could play a role -- the poor may have less access to disinfecting product to keep themselves and their homes virus free. That seems to be a factor in Native American populations.


    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/25/211926...ricans-indians

    I have boxes of disinfectants and hand sanitizers, complements of our son who keeps bringing things over even though we've run out of room to store them. But, I can understand if families have limited finances, they may opt for food before they stock up on overpriced cleaners. Yet, more whites live in poverty than minorities, so the numbers shouldn't really skew for that reason.

    It could be job-related. Do more minorities work in the service industry? Food service, perhaps? Is it more difficult for them to practice social distancing?



    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IL

    Those are some pretty stark numbers, so the question is -- why? And, what has to change to reduce it?
    I wonder if they checked with those African Countries. Haiti, Jamaica, etc etc.
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    It's "systematic" racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    If true, and I don't think we'll really know for a few months, why would this be happening? Fauci seems to think it's linked to black people being fatter in general. I don't put a lot of stock in what Fauci says, he changes his mind at the drop of a hat, but here's his reasoning:


    https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/anthon...aids-epidemic/

    I find this odd because (in my opinion) blacks often seem to be more athletic than whites. But, I will agree that there are some pretty large black women around -- yet -- there are some pretty large white women as well, and more males that females seem to be succumbing to the virus, so that probably isn't it.

    Are blacks taking fewer precautions? I doubt that -- although early on I remember hearing rumors that blacks were less susceptible than whites and I suppose that might have led some to relax their social distancing.

    Poverty could play a role -- the poor may have less access to disinfecting product to keep themselves and their homes virus free. That seems to be a factor in Native American populations.


    https://www.vox.com/2020/3/25/211926...ricans-indians

    I have boxes of disinfectants and hand sanitizers, complements of our son who keeps bringing things over even though we've run out of room to store them. But, I can understand if families have limited finances, they may opt for food before they stock up on overpriced cleaners. Yet, more whites live in poverty than minorities, so the numbers shouldn't really skew for that reason.

    It could be job-related. Do more minorities work in the service industry? Food service, perhaps? Is it more difficult for them to practice social distancing?



    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IL

    Those are some pretty stark numbers, so the question is -- why? And, what has to change to reduce it?
    Everything you've mentioned could possibly play a role.

    BTW, obesity rates are significantly higher among blacks and Hispanics.
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    Fauci or Birx was asked this. The reply was that it was likely related to the underlying conditions but that data was being gathered and would be shared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Fauci or Birx was asked this. The reply was that it was likely related to the underlying conditions but that data was being gathered and would be shared.
    It's not likely related to underlying conditions. It's obviously related to underlying conditions but we have a bunch of paranoid, delusional morons in this country who need this stupid question answered.
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    Hmmm.....I wonder if the Demo Governor and Demo Mayor of Chicago are to blame for what is happening in Chicago and Illinois.
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    Are blacks dying at a higher rate?
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    What group has a disproportionate percent of diabetes, heart disease and lung problems.
    It is not the skin color but instead the pre-existing conditions that tend to be genetic.
    Then add that they tend to live in the crowded urban environment.

    Some states are too politically correct to track race so the numbers are only from a portion of the states.
    Worst risk group is a senior black men
    Best risk group is a young white women

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