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    Post Graduating Law School Students urge Ohio to let them bypass the bar exam

    Graduating law school students, citing coronavirus concerns, urge Ohio to let them bypass the bar exam - citing anxiety.

    The students this week petitioned the Ohio Supreme Court and its bar
    admissions office to adopt a practice known as “diploma privilege,”
    which would allow them to be licensed to practice law by virtue of their
    juris doctorate degrees.

    That would relieve anxiety among students now contemplating taking an exam
    in a crowded area while the coronavirus crisis still exists or delaying
    an exam, Matthew Wagner, president of the Cleveland-Marshall College of
    Law Student Bar Association, said in an interview with cleveland.com.


    Delaying the exam, Wagner noted, would increase anxiety about the ability to
    practice law and begin paying off student loans. Allowing the graduates
    to practice, on the other hand, would help ensure a steady supply of
    lawyers in an era where legal representation is going to be needed, he
    said.

    https://www.cleveland.com/coronaviru...-bar-exam.html


    Already Connecticut and Hawaii, Massachusetts and New York have
    postponed their summer bar exams, Wagner said. Utah’s Supreme Court this
    week ordered that qualified recent graduates in that state could be
    admitted to the bar without exam. Wisconsin has long had a form of diploma privilege in place.


    Are we supposed to only let 73% of them practice - the Ohio bar passage rate? https://www.crainscleveland.com/jere...july-bar-exams

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    Unbelievable. Perhaps we should also let med students skip residency and eliminate physical tests for Marines.

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    @DGUtley

    If I recall correctly, you are an attorney?

    What is your view on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    @DGUtley If I recall correctly, you are an attorney? What is your view on this?
    I haven't thought about it enough. The Bar is kind of the last opportunity for 'the man' to 'stick it to you'. I understand that they now take the national multiple choice before the actual bar exam. We know that only 73-78% pass the first time. It's incredibly stressful. I don't know. I'll have to think about it.
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    What if instead of the bar exam. They were required to do a two year internship at firm. The Partner in charge would evaluate their work and submit reports during this period. There would be an oral interview/exam at the end of that time and decision would be made to admit them to the bar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I haven't thought about it enough. The Bar is kind of the last opportunity for 'the man' to 'stick it to you'. I understand that they now take the national multiple choice before the actual bar exam. We know that only 73-78% pass the first time. It's incredibly stressful. I don't know. I'll have to think about it.
    I took the Texas Bar in the summer of 1998. The MultiState test was the first event. 200 multiple choice questions where for each question it was a toss up between two of the 4 choices. It sucked, but I did well on it. Then the Texas specific topics were short answers and essays. The exam took two days. At that time Texas has around a 72% pass rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    What if instead of the bar exam. They were required to do a two year internship at firm. The Partner in charge would evaluate their work and submit reports during this period. There would be an oral interview/exam at the end of that time and decision would be made to admit them to the bar?
    In the past that is how it was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I took the Texas Bar in the summer of 1998. The MultiState test was the first event. 200 multiple choice questions where for each question it was a toss up between two of the 4 choices. It sucked, but I did well on it. Then the Texas specific topics were short answers and essays. The exam took two days. At that time Texas has around a 72% pass rate.
    I took the bar at the end of July, 1987. Two days for Ohio, one day for the multistate. Ohio's were all essays. Results were announced at the end of October. It was the late Chief Justice Moyer's first bar class and he wanted to turn Ohio from a 'pass' state to a more difficult to pass state. He did. If you scored x on the multistate, then they only graded 2 or 3 of your essays. I did and scored well overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    I took the bar at the end of July, 1987. Two days for Ohio, one day for the multistate. Ohio's were all essays. Results were announced at the end of October. It was the late Chief Justice Moyer's first bar class and he wanted to turn Ohio from a 'pass' state to a more difficult to pass state. He did. If you scored x on the multistate, then they only graded 2 or 3 of your essays. I did and scored well overall.
    Now that you mention it, Texas was 3 days.
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