The Religious Revival That Could Save America

[carolina73]

Jesus was quite specifically addressing Jews. He was telling Jews that they could not attain Salvation unless they believed in Him alone.

That statement sounds like Jesus performed a coupe and knocked off his father. Was in NK style?

I think the Bible represents a little too much of the human input, in the power struggle between religions.
I only go to non-denominational churches for this reason. I am a reformed Catholic.

[roadmaster]

I don't understand this. Jews claim a relationship with God without Jesus. I believe they generally doubt they can attain a heavenly afterlife, however. Reincarnation is what they anticipate.

What makes you think that people who conclude for themselves that Heaven is attainable without Jesus "expect us to clap and agree with them"? I understand nothing in this comment and what follows it.

Can you explain a bit more?

Ok but I am only talking about people who claim Christ. That one verse that Jesus said, I wait to see if they believe Him. If they don't believe Him then they don't believe the next verses.

He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the

record

that God gave of his Son.

And this is the

record

, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

So going back to the OP, it will do no good for them to pray, if they never believed. If they believe none of this then they don't believe on the death, burial and resurrection. The building is just a social, maybe to find contacts or just to be seen by men. But He doesn't know them nor have they ever known Him.

[Orion Rules]

It is claimed this woman was given a vision. So, if the church is in trouble, how can America or the world believe it can be looked upon with favor?

""Jesus told her, “See, the thoughts of the people of the church have not been converted to my Father, but on daily living, and of this world. It’s because of this that the worship of this church won’t go to my throne. They are not preoccupied with my kingdom, or my return.”"

http://themostimportantnews.com/arch...christ-returns

[jet57]

Religion is the root of all evil.

Well, evil is actually the root of all evil, the religious just sell their version of it.

[Chris]

Well, evil is actually the root of all evil, the religious just sell their version of it.

Evil is the root of evil. Circularly, insipidly stupid.

[jet57]

Evil is the root of evil. Circularly, insipidly stupid.

You're completely out of touch as usual.

[Chris]

You're completely out of touch as usual.

I am? You define evil as evil, that's circular, meaningless, insipid.

Student asks teacher, teacher, what is a circle. Teacher says a circle is a circle. Duh.

Student asks teacher, teacher, what is the cause of condensation. Teacher says the cause of condensation is condensation. Duh.

[jet57]

I am? You define evil as evil, that's circular, meaningless, insipid.

Student asks teacher, teacher, what is a circle. Teacher says a circle is a circle. Duh.

Student asks teacher, teacher, what is the cause of condensation. Teacher says the cause of condensation is condensation. Duh.

Condensation is only an example of nature’s circle.

Yeah you’re way off the reality track.

Read something ; it’ll help.

[Chris]

Condensation is only an example of nature’s circle.

Yeah you’re way off the reality track.

Read something ; it’ll help.

Condensation is only an example of nature’s circle.

The word you're looking for there is cycle.


Going in circles is not reasonable. Cycles are natural.

[jet57]

The word you're looking for there is cycle.


Going in circles is not reasonable. Cycles are natural.

Uh, no. I used the word circle advisedly. Ever look at a wedding ring?