China has Australia in its gun sights

[usaf81]

I thought all were going to be built in Australia. Australia has an accomplished ship building Industry with submarine experience. Its a mistake not putting nuclear reactors in them but the public hates the idea. The RAAF is ga-ga over the F-35 and I trust them more then I do Carlo Kopp and his 2 hours flight time in an F-18.

Future wars will be won by stealth aircraft. The first airplane to get a shot off without being detected will win and most air wars will be won by strike aircraft anyway. Besides the current lot price for F-35A isnt much more then for a Super Hornet and a Growler is much more expensive.

The RAAF Growlers have our latest AGM-88E Advanced Antiradiation Guided Missile which has the addition of a MMwave seeker so even if the enemy radar is turned off the missile will home in on its radar return. The AARGM extended range missile is in the works and will fit inside the F-35 carriage and its said it will have double the range of the AARGM putting it in the 150+ mi class. Thats far, far outside the detection envelope of the best Soviet radar systems. Its said the S-400 can't detect the F-35 frontal until at most 30 mi out which means the S-400 is in SDB-ll glide bomb range before it knows the F-35 is even there, let alone a HARM missile with an 80 mi to 150 mi range.

And getting a target lock for the AAA missile itself is even more difficult.

[PJL]

I thought all were going to be built in Australia. Australia has an accomplished ship building Industry with submarine experience. Its a mistake not putting nuclear reactors in them but the public hates the idea. The RAAF is ga-ga over the F-35 and I trust them more then I do Carlo Kopp and his 2 hours flight time in an F-18.

Future wars will be won by stealth aircraft. The first airplane to get a shot off without being detected will win and most air wars will be won by strike aircraft anyway. Besides the current lot price for F-35A isnt much more then for a Super Hornet and a Growler is much more expensive.

The RAAF Growlers have our latest AGM-88E Advanced Antiradiation Guided Missile which has the addition of a MMwave seeker so even if the enemy radar is turned off the missile will home in on its radar return. The AARGM extended range missile is in the works and will fit inside the F-35 carriage and its said it will have double the range of the AARGM putting it in the 150+ mi class. Thats far, far outside the detection envelope of the best Soviet radar systems. Its said the S-400 can't detect the F-35 frontal until at most 30 mi out which means the S-400 is in SDB-ll glide bomb range before it knows the F-35 is even there, let alone a HARM missile with an 80 mi to 150 mi range.

And getting a target lock for the AAA missile itself is even more difficult.

These toys are ineffective against a virus .

[PJL]

Wheres that link about future governments can walk away? LOL




LMAO.....looks like you were given alternative facts. Must be a reason why they would keep doing that to you intentionally.
So much for your uhm, erm…..so called facts.

...."Concerns were so great that the board asked Defence to consider "whether program risks outweighed the benefits of proceeding" and questioned whether it was still in the national interest to go ahead with the project.
The Strategic Partnering Agreement was eventually signed, with much fanfare, in early 2019 and notably, it gives future governments the ability to walk away from the project if it's delayed or fails to deliver what it promised.
Already, two key milestones have been missed and work on the design phase is nine months behind schedule.
In the report, Defence expressed a "deepening concern over a number of matters", which in its view "were a risk to the Future Submarine Program".......https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...ement/11867134

[bulletbob]

...."Concerns were so great that the board asked Defence to consider "whether program risks outweighed the benefits of proceeding" and questioned whether it was still in the national interest to go ahead with the project.
The Strategic Partnering Agreement was eventually signed, with much fanfare, in early 2019 and notably, it gives future governments the ability to walk away from the project if it's delayed or fails to deliver what it promised.
Already, two key milestones have been missed and work on the design phase is nine months behind schedule.
In the report, Defence expressed a "deepening concern over a number of matters", which in its view "were a risk to the Future Submarine Program".......https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...ement/11867134

whats your point there PLO

[MMC]

...."Concerns were so great that the board asked Defence to consider "whether program risks outweighed the benefits of proceeding" and questioned whether it was still in the national interest to go ahead with the project.
The Strategic Partnering Agreement was eventually signed, with much fanfare, in early 2019 and notably, it gives future governments the ability to walk away from the project if it's delayed or fails to deliver what it promised.
Already, two key milestones have been missed and work on the design phase is nine months behind schedule.
In the report, Defence expressed a "deepening concern over a number of matters", which in its view "were a risk to the Future Submarine Program".......https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...ement/11867134

Oh, they asked to reconsider and they went ahead despite any concern or reconsidering.


Early in 2019 in gave the ability to walk away. Now after the negotiations. They changed that specific part.


Australia to pay French submarine builders up ... - ABC News

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-15/australia...
May 15, 2019 · Australia will be forced to make multi-million-dollar compensation payments to France if the future submarine program is terminated, according to leaked figures obtained by the ABC.


Their concerns were noted. They are going forward despite any of those concerns.

[MMC]

whats your point there PLO

He was looking for some out. As he couldn't change up the reality.

[bulletbob]

He was looking for some out. As he couldn't change up the reality.

that sounds very likely

[usaf81]

These toys are ineffective against a virus .

Who is talking about a virus? You are making zero sense between babbling about a virus and making blind single sentence statements about the F-35, a system you obviously know nothing about.

[MMC]

Who is talking about a virus? You are making zero sense between babbling about a virus and making blind single sentence statements about the F-35, a system you obviously know nothing about.

He doesn't know much about the US at all. Other than what he is told by others not from the US.