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    Grant

    Coming Memorial Day, History Channel, looks interesting.

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    I love historical shows like this. Even though people don't get thrown back like that when they are shot.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Ron Chernow talks about his Grant:

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    Grant was a better general than Lee. No one can dispute that. I don't think that the Union could have won the war without Grant.

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    Owing to the outcome he brought to the Civil War, Grant was arguably the most popular president in US history besides Washington, another general.

    Patton was likewise hugely popular in the states and similarly destined, but he was killed under controversial and suspicious circumstances.

    Grant's popularity was apparently also a magnet for crooks and shysters, as his presidential tenure was very corrupt. He wasn't but the people around him were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Grant was a better general than Lee. No one can dispute that. I don't think that the Union could have won the war without Grant.
    Chernow says Lee was a better tactician in individual battles, Grant the better strategist in terms of a master plan for ending the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Grant was a better general than Lee. No one can dispute that. I don't think that the Union could have won the war without Grant.
    You speak heresy, sir!

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    Lee's biggest failure was not allowing Forrest more authority and manpower to conduct raids against the Union. Forrest paid for most of his troops on his own.

    BTW, as an aside of the North being so pro civil rights it should be noted white Union soldiers were paid $13.00 a month but black soldiers were only paid $7.00 a month until 1864.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    I don't think that the Union could have won the war without Grant.
    Gen. McClellan whom Grant replaced) was incompetent. Grant, on the other hand, was not; and he would actually stand firm, and fight against Lee and his troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perianne View Post
    You speak heresy, sir!
    Lee exposed his troops to greater dangers, which is why he suffered more casualties than did Grant.

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