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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereigntist View Post
    Greetings everyone, it is with great honor and humility that I reach out to you today and ask for just a moment of your time. As you all know, we are facing the greatest economic crisis in history and it has become evidently clear that our governments do not have even the slightest idea of what to do. Now, there are many things which can be attributed to the present state of affairs, but there is no denying that poor leadership and corruption played a central role in all of it. National leaders need to take immediate action and work together to overcome this crisis, but unfortunately they are neither willing nor capable of doing so. The harsh reality is that global stability is deteriorating at an alarming rate and we are heading towards a complete economic collapse. So what are national leaders around the world doing to prevent this from happening? Unfortunately, our so-called leaders are doing absolutely nothing except blaming one another for a crisis they are all guilty of creating. The fact is that this crisis was deliberately created by them or at the very least made worse by their sheer incompetence. It is no secret that our governments are made up very largely of politicians who are either corrupt or incompetent. The only real mystery is how they have been able to hide their criminal activities from us for so long. But if this crisis has revealed anything about them it is just how quickly they will resort to lying and false accusations in order to cover up their mistakes. And what better way for a politician to evade personal responsibility than by diverting the public’s attention away from themselves? The unfortunate truth is that we have become tolerant of corruption and have forgotten that it is our constitutional right to not only remove criminals from office but, if necessary, create an entirely new government. The Declaration of Independence states “that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.” We need a new government now more than ever which is why I invite you to read Sovereignty for free. Sovereigntism is a doctrine that aims to unite all people together, regardless of their nationality, to create a single State with a global government. I believe, as do my fellow Sovereigntists, that only by working together will we be able to save true democracy from corruption and ultimately prevent the impending economic collapse. There is still time for us to set things right, but only if we take action here and now. For Sovereignty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereigntist View Post
    To Captdon, I am not saying that we should be sending them more money, because it would most likely end up in the pockets of their corrupt politicians. What I am trying to say is that we should be sending them more food and water, as well as teaching them how to grow and produce it themselves.
    That worked out great in Somalia where the local WarLords appropriated the aid while we stood around and watched them. Then became rich selling those goods at an inflated price to the starving citizens.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    one world government eradicates sovereignty.
    Let me put this in a way that is very clear: The Collective (that's you) absolutely needs the Individual. The Individual does not need the Collective.
    One world government eradicates the Individual.
    Socialism is the nail and Communism is the hammer. You cannot rule the world without extreme force.
    Nash would kinda disagree with you. The best individual outcome comes from that individual doing what's best for himself and the group.
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    Sovereigntism is a doctrine that aims to unite all people together, regardless of their nationality, to create a single State with a global government.
    That is a dangerous idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereigntist View Post
    You do not want them to succeed? In other words, you want countries to continue fighting with one another and for their citizens to remain in poverty. And being "poor by choice" is the most absurd thing anyone has ever said. No one chooses or wants to be poor.
    If you don't want to work when it is available, you made a choice.

    If you want absurd, read your posts.

    As for the rest, I don't care what they do. It's their choice.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our society and our morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    The original intent of income tax was to support the war effort of this country in declared wars. It was to pay off the war debt.
    but it was leveraged on business owners and those who had a "profit" not the wage earner.
    Congress changed all of that once the SCOTUS called them down on it. That created a vacuum and was promptly filled with the 16th A.
    Realize of course that it was used to pay a user fee from the Fed Res because we use their currency.
    Then along comes FDR who capitalized upon it and turned America into a welfare state, passing the bill along to the new found taxpayers. With that, along came out of control Keynesian spending: Spend today what you don't have, pass it forward along with deficits, and keep the taxpayer enslaved to the Fed Res with the US Treasury acting like a bagman for the bank.

    The fed res contracts about a 15 cents per bill printed by the treasury. They (fed res) then "loan" the face value back to us. If we borrowed twenty dollars, we pay them twenty plus interest. But their only investment was 15 cents for the twenty dollar bill, plus the interest.
    Let's say I'm a bank. I put your assets in my safe and charge you a minimum fee. Let's give this a value of one hundred dollars, and it is all the money there is. I sweet talk you into investing in some short term loans to increase their money.
    Remember, all I have is on hundred dollars. Several people come to me wanting a loan, so I offer them a loan with a simple interest and I eventually loan out the 100 dollars, but I promised the owner of the money that he would make money on his "investment."
    The total loan value was for $125 with the interest. Where do the borrowers get the interest to repay the loan? There's only a hundred bucks in circulation, but the bank is expecting that interest.
    What to do......well, we can inflate the value of the money to "create" more value on the backside. Now I claim the $100 is worth $200 (inflation) and loan more money to get cash circulating so I can recoup my original money plus interest.
    Interest is created out of thin air. There really isn't any more money, it's just been inflated to appear to be more than there really is. It's still only a hundred bucks, but now there's interest to be collected. In the mean time, property has been offered up as collateral, which of course is the main intent. Something of value for nothing given. Fiat money is just that. It has no value except for what the lenders say it has.
    I can hardly wait for the replies, but let me leave you with one last thought: Why would you pay $250,000 for a $75,000 dollar home? It may be that it's worth even less than $75,000 due to inflation, but because the "market" calls for it, you pay the principle and the interest.
    The fed res can set the interest rates to absolute zero, but you wont see that when you borrow money. You still pay the interest which ends up in the banks controlled by the Fed Res.
    Doubt me? The current interest rates from the fed res are at historic lows: Zero.
    Now go try to borrow money without having incurred the interest. Wont happened, can't happen. We are still being charged by the fed res for using their currency, and not ours. (check the top of the 20 in your wallet and see who's name is on it)
    The 16 A made it legal and it wasn't for wartime. Lincoln got one passes and the Court threw that out.

    I didn't mention the inflated values of anything. It doesn't have anything to do with my comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereigntist View Post
    To stjames1_53, Now I understand why you are so hostile with me. When I said "it is very easy for someone to criticize the work of others without ever being productive themselves" I did not mean in the physical sense but in the written sense. A lot of people "judge a book by its cover" without ever investing the time to read it or write one themselves. I do not doubt that you are a hardworking individual, so I hope that we can put that slight misunderstanding behind us. I also appreciate you informing Captdon on the truth about the Income Tax.
    Jesus, you're thick. My comment was dead on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    The 16 A made it legal and it wasn't for wartime. Lincoln got one passes and the Court threw that out.

    I didn't mention the inflated values of anything. It doesn't have anything to do with my comment.
    All I was doing is explaining the basics of banking economy. If we had a one world government, that would only increase the problem 100 fold
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