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    Americans Are Too "Obsessed" With Freedom

    An essential difference between the liberal and the conservative/libertarian.

    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Uhh someone should explain to them that Freedom doesnt have degrees, youre either free or you are not
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    The point of the COVID-19 government response is to roll back individual liberty. It is to train people to comply.
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    The (faux)freedom fetishists are always concerned with the freedom to, while overlooking freedom from.

    Your right to swing your arm ends where my right not to have my nose struck begins.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The point of the COVID-19 government response is to roll back individual liberty. It is to train people to comply.
    Screw them, thats why they want guns also..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Screw them, thats why they want guns also..
    Exactly. They need to disarm the populace to achieve their goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    The (faux)freedom fetishists are always concerned with the freedom to, while overlooking freedom from.

    Your right to swing your arm ends where my right not to have my nose struck begins.
    word salad of the day...................freedom to, freedom from.................
    Freedom to do something ? Freedom from doing something?
    Like, freedom to collect a welfare check and freedom from having to earn it yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    word salad of the day...................freedom to, freedom from.................
    Freedom to do something ? Freedom from doing something?
    Like, freedom to collect a welfare check and freedom from having to earn it yourself?
    No, more like wanting the government out of your private lives, but want it full bore into others.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    The (faux)freedom fetishists are always concerned with the freedom to, while overlooking freedom from.

    Your right to swing your arm ends where my right not to have my nose struck begins.

    Safety you and every other black person is just as free as me. Actually you have more laws protecting you than I do.
    You cant force anyone to like you that doesnt...and likeing or dislike doesnt give you or take your freedom.
    You are more free than I am by law...I have laws that says I cant call you names, you dont and black people call white people racist names never endlingly...I could go on but you get the drift theres alot of laws that protect you from me but not me from you.


    Black people demand what they are never going to get...you want everyone to like you, not going to happen. My father grew up with Irish and Germans hating him because he was italian.



    Black people so over use racism as an excuse it hurts all blacks...A white person is not a racist because they disagree with something you want...a white person isnt a racist because they are NOT a democrat. A white person isnt a racist that simply disagrees with you. and being white in itself doesnt constitute a racist..but any of that is cause for many to yank out Ye Olde Racecard and flash it around.

    Blacks still harp on slavery, that no white person still alive had a damn thing to do with. Its all about using racism for political power and a hammer.

    There are white people that do not like blacks, there are black people that do not like whites, thats the way it is, thats the way its always going to be and thats that.

    Whites know the race card is used as an EXCUSE for a variety of isssues...they know its used for political power and they know its used as a hammer to badger people with and thats why to most everyone i know the race card is as meaningless as wet tissue paper.
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Screw them, thats why they want guns also..
    Sounds like a potentially smokin' hot market for free trade.
    http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/120290-Vodafone-denies-5G-coronavirus-connection

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