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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA! Ok...you just pulled that one out of your ass. NJ had a plan that was written in 2015 but this virus was so overwhelming, CDC F ups with testing, and the good ole stockpile had nothing and your overlord did nothing to help. The plan called for health providers to dip into state and federal stockpiles, but oops....Trump never replenished...oops, he fired the pandemic team...oops, oops and oops again. Your president F'd this whole country up.
    Leanne, the hysterical Internet laughter is weird and fake. Stop that. It makes you look like an old Jewish liberal.

    No, it sounds more like NJ just wasn't prepared. How could that be allowed to happen? Why couldn't NJ see this coming? Ir mean everyone knew! Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Leanne, the hysterical Internet laughter is weird and fake. Stop that. It makes you look like an old Jewish liberal.

    No, it sounds more like NJ just wasn't prepared. How could that be allowed to happen? Why couldn't NJ see this coming? Ir mean everyone knew! Right?
    I can't help it - it is hysterical. You just don't think it's funny that's why. No, they had a plan. 2015. They knew it could happen that's why the report was done. I mean come on Mister D you have better questions than that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    I can't help it - it is hysterical. You just don't think it's funny that's why. No, they had a plan. 2015. They knew it could happen that's why the report was done. I mean come on Mister D you have better questions than that right?
    Leanne, no one believes you're laughing hysterically. You're being weird.

    That plan was totally inadequate. How was that allowed to happen? That was my question and you still haven't answered it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA! Ok...you just pulled that one out of your ass. NJ had a plan that was written in 2015 but this virus was so overwhelming, CDC F ups with testing, and the good ole stockpile had nothing and your overlord did nothing to help. The plan called for health providers to dip into state and federal stockpiles, but oops....Trump never replenished...oops, he fired the pandemic team...oops, oops and oops again. Your president F'd this whole country up.
    It wasn't Trump's fault NJ never replenished. How could he and when was he told to replenish NJ's folly?
    You keep saying that Trump knew, but you never say when he knew what he knew.
    We can tell you've been butt hurt, but c'mon now. You weren't even prepared.
    Ya know what? Screw it, you're just to plain hung up to blame Trump for everything miserable in your weak-assed life.
    This whole thing has been explained to you with pictures and page markers, and you still don't get it.
    It isn't Trump's fault to hold the states' hands. That isn't what a president does.
    You do know that it is up to the House Ways and Means to provide money to SUPPORT the fu*king states. Trump has nothing to do with it. If anyone blew it was your jackass people in the House who blocked giving that money to the states in order to resupply and that problem existed in 2014. That wasn't Trump's watch, that was your watch (democrat socialists)
    But since you knew in December everything there was to know about the Wuhan Virus, why weren't you better prepared? Are you so dependent upon government that it has to tell when to wipe your ass? Are you incapable of thinking ahead for yourself?
    Tell us how you knew when and where it was going to strike?
    you're two faced duplicitous, freaking, whiney ...........shallow, self-centered, emotional little..............
    You can't prove a damn thing you put up.
    I would suggest, for you mindful well-being you move to another country because all you do is complain and blame everyone else for YOUR failures. Cuba would be a better place for you to live and it's real cheap, just like you
    Last edited by stjames1_53; 05-22-2020 at 09:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    NJ had what they had but the virus was overwhelming...you got that? It was O V E R W H E L M I N G. When Trump was orally told it's gonna be fuc king bad
    he ignored it. Simply poofed it away...and even praised Xi. For weeks. Just admit your overlord F'd up. It's just much easier to admit the truth.
    So why was New Jersey unprepared?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    You act like this was a typical cold...ho hum..yeah some people died...big deal right? Isn't that what your thinking? This was big. This was bad and the states needed help and I'm sure they asked nicely. Magnificent President...pffft my ass.
    It is about twice as deadly as the annual flu. Maybe three times. So?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    It wasn't Trump's fault NJ never replenished. How could he and when was he told to replenish NJ's folly?
    You keep saying that Trump knew, but you never say when he knew what he knew.
    We can tell you've been butt hurt, but c'mon now. You weren't even prepared.
    Ya know what? Screw it, you're just to plain hung up to blame Trump for everything miserable in your weak-assed life.
    This whole thing has been explained to you with pictures and page markers, and you still don't get it.
    It isn't Trump's fault to hold the states' hands. That isn't what a president does.
    You do know that it is up to the House Ways and Means to provide money to SUPPORT the fu*king states. Trump has nothing to do with it. If anyone blew it was your jackass people in the House who blocked giving that money to the states in order to resupply and that problem existed in 2014. That wasn't Trump's watch, that was your watch (democrat socialists)
    But since you knew in December everything there was to know about the Wuhan Virus, why weren't you better prepared? Are you so dependent upon government that it has to tell when to wipe your ass? Are you incapable of thinking ahead for yourself?
    Tell us how you knew when and where it was going to strike?
    you're two faced duplicitous, freaking, whiney ...........shallow, self-centered, emotional little..............
    You can't prove a damn thing you put up.
    I would suggest, for you mindful well-being you move to another country because all you do is complain and blame everyone else for YOUR failures. Cuba would be a better place for you to live and it's real cheap, just like you
    I think you need to have a lesson in stockpile 101.

    Now read it carefully....don't jump to conclusions like you always do....read it then read it again if you have to to comprehend.

    The Strategic National Stockpile's role is to supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies. Many states have products stockpiled, as well. The supplies, medicines, and devices for life-saving care contained in the stockpile can be used as a short-term stopgap buffer when the immediate supply of adequate amounts of these materials may not be immediately available.

    With approximately 200 federal and contract employees, the Strategic National Stockpile is organized to support any public health threat. Stockpile staff represent a variety of specialties, and all work together to ensure the right resources are ready and can get to the right place at the right time.
    Information and Planning Branch

    The Information and Planning Branch coordinates preparedness activities for the stockpile and its partners to maintain alternative emergency medical supply chain capabilities. This branch:
    • Designs and delivers training and exercise support for public health and emergency staff and partners
    • Maintains day-to-day situational awareness, ensuring the stockpile is ready to respond
    • Manages the stockpile’s response activities during a public health emergency
    Learn more about the history of stockpile responses.
    Management and Business Operations Branch

    The Management and Business Operations Branch provides operational support. This branch:
    • Manages quality control of the stockpile’s inventory and IT support of inventory management systems
    • Maintains fiduciary responsibilities associated with a budget that often exceeds $500 million
    • Conducts strategic planning, forecasting the five year budget requirements, and management
    • Executes all internal and external communication on behalf of the division
    • Oversees policy, legislation and issues management
    Operational Logistics Branch

    The Operational Logistics Branch is responsible for the stockpile’s inventory of antibiotics, medical supplies, equipment, antidotes, antitoxins, antivirals, vaccines, and other pharmaceuticals that are strategically located throughout the United States and its territories. This branch:
    • Gets needed medicines and supplies into the stockpile
    • Makes sure the right amounts and types of medicines and supplies are available to respond to an emergency
    • Ensures the stockpile can resupply state and local public health agencies in a catastrophic health event
    Science Branch

    The Science Branch manages the medical, pharmaceutical, and scientific oversight of stockpile products. This branch:
    • Ensures the scientific review of all medical assets in the stockpile
    • Takes part in the PHEMCE process, which helps plan which resources the stockpile will need to protect the nation’s health
    • Serves as subject matter experts on critical medicines and medical supplies (medical countermeasures) necessary in a public health emergency
    Strategic Logistics Branch

    The Strategic Logistics staff builds relationships between public health and other federal agencies and private partners. This branch:
    • Coordinates information sharing with states and locals during public health emergencies to determine the most efficient way to approach a response. Works with partners inside and outside of government to support optimal distribution of medical countermeasures during public health emergencies. Serves as a point of contact for federal agencies, non-governmental organizations, and commercial partners for stockpile initiatives
    Sustaining the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) involves managing the entire life cycle of stockpile assets as well as acquiring, storing, and transporting supplies.
    SNS management includes:
    • Overseeing the shelf life of medicines to ensure the stock is rotated and kept within U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) potency shelf-life limits
    • Conducting routine quality assurance on all products
    • Performing annual inventory of all products
    • Inspecting environmental conditions, security, and package maintenance
    • Ensuring SNS holdings are based on the latest scientific data and threat levels
    • Ensuring the ability to transport items during a public health emergency
    Shelf Life Extension Program

    The SNS participates in the Federal Shelf Life Extension Program (for federal stockpiles) which is managed by the Department of Defense and the FDA. Once the FDA conducts stability testing and determines that products are stable and safe for continued use, the program will extend the use-by dates of pharmaceuticals beyond their original expiration dates. Testing typically provides an added 12 to 24 months of extended shelf life. More testing can lead to even longer extensions. Products that fail FDA testing are removed from stockpile inventory.
    Participation in the Shelf Life Extension Program requires:
    • Tracking the expiration date and manufacturer lot numbers of eligible products
    • Coordinating the shipment of products to FDA for stability testing
    • Receiving and tracking FDA testing results for each lot of product
    • Disposing of and replacing product lots that have failed FDA testing
    Inventory Management and Tracking System

    In a large-scale public health crisis, state and local public health agencies will have to manage large quantities of medical countermeasures (MCMs) to help prevent or treat diseases. Responders need an effective software tool to manage the large and rapidly moving MCM inventory they may receive from the SNS.
    The Inventory Management and Tracking System (IMATS) was created by the SNS to help state and local public health agencies manage these MCMs during a crisis. IMATS allows responders to track MCM inventory down to local levels; monitor reorder thresholds; and support warehouse operations. This tool can also be used in regular day-to-day operations.

    I hope you got all that. Oh, and all the vicious name calling....after you take stockpile 101 - go take an anger management class man.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    I think you need to have a lesson in stockpile 101.

    Now read it carefully....don't jump to conclusions like you always do....read it then read it again if you have to to comprehend.

    The Strategic National Stockpile's role is to supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies. Many states have products stockpiled, as well. The supplies, medicines, and devices for life-saving care contained in the stockpile can be used as a short-term stopgap buffer when the immediate supply of adequate amounts of these materials may not be immediately available.

    With approximately 200 federal and contract employees, the Strategic National Stockpile is organized to support any public health threat. Stockpile staff represent a variety of specialties, and all work together to ensure the right resources are ready and can get to the right place at the right time.
    Information and Planning Branch

    The Information and Planning Branch coordinates preparedness activities for the stockpile and its partners to maintain alternative emergency medical supply chain capabilities. This branch:
    • Designs and delivers training and exercise support for public health and emergency staff and partners
    • Maintains day-to-day situational awareness, ensuring the stockpile is ready to respond
    • Manages the stockpile’s response activities during a public health emergency
    Learn more about the history of stockpile responses.
    Management and Business Operations Branch

    The Management and Business Operations Branch provides operational support. This branch:
    • Manages quality control of the stockpile’s inventory and IT support of inventory management systems
    • Maintains fiduciary responsibilities associated with a budget that often exceeds $500 million
    • Conducts strategic planning, forecasting the five year budget requirements, and management
    • Executes all internal and external communication on behalf of the division
    • Oversees policy, legislation and issues management
    Operational Logistics Branch

    The Operational Logistics Branch is responsible for the stockpile’s inventory of antibiotics, medical supplies, equipment, antidotes, antitoxins, antivirals, vaccines, and other pharmaceuticals that are strategically located throughout the United States and its territories. This branch:
    • Gets needed medicines and supplies into the stockpile
    • Makes sure the right amounts and types of medicines and supplies are available to respond to an emergency
    • Ensures the stockpile can resupply state and local public health agencies in a catastrophic health event
    Science Branch

    The Science Branch manages the medical, pharmaceutical, and scientific oversight of stockpile products. This branch:
    • Ensures the scientific review of all medical assets in the stockpile
    • Takes part in the PHEMCE process, which helps plan which resources the stockpile will need to protect the nation’s health
    • Serves as subject matter experts on critical medicines and medical supplies (medical countermeasures) necessary in a public health emergency
    Strategic Logistics Branch

    The Strategic Logistics staff builds relationships between public health and other federal agencies and private partners. This branch:
    • Coordinates information sharing with states and locals during public health emergencies to determine the most efficient way to approach a response. Works with partners inside and outside of government to support optimal distribution of medical countermeasures during public health emergencies. Serves as a point of contact for federal agencies, non-governmental organizations, and commercial partners for stockpile initiatives
    Sustaining the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) involves managing the entire life cycle of stockpile assets as well as acquiring, storing, and transporting supplies.
    SNS management includes:
    • Overseeing the shelf life of medicines to ensure the stock is rotated and kept within U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) potency shelf-life limits
    • Conducting routine quality assurance on all products
    • Performing annual inventory of all products
    • Inspecting environmental conditions, security, and package maintenance
    • Ensuring SNS holdings are based on the latest scientific data and threat levels
    • Ensuring the ability to transport items during a public health emergency
    Shelf Life Extension Program

    The SNS participates in the Federal Shelf Life Extension Program (for federal stockpiles) which is managed by the Department of Defense and the FDA. Once the FDA conducts stability testing and determines that products are stable and safe for continued use, the program will extend the use-by dates of pharmaceuticals beyond their original expiration dates. Testing typically provides an added 12 to 24 months of extended shelf life. More testing can lead to even longer extensions. Products that fail FDA testing are removed from stockpile inventory.
    Participation in the Shelf Life Extension Program requires:
    • Tracking the expiration date and manufacturer lot numbers of eligible products
    • Coordinating the shipment of products to FDA for stability testing
    • Receiving and tracking FDA testing results for each lot of product
    • Disposing of and replacing product lots that have failed FDA testing
    Inventory Management and Tracking System

    In a large-scale public health crisis, state and local public health agencies will have to manage large quantities of medical countermeasures (MCMs) to help prevent or treat diseases. Responders need an effective software tool to manage the large and rapidly moving MCM inventory they may receive from the SNS.
    The Inventory Management and Tracking System (IMATS) was created by the SNS to help state and local public health agencies manage these MCMs during a crisis. IMATS allows responders to track MCM inventory down to local levels; monitor reorder thresholds; and support warehouse operations. This tool can also be used in regular day-to-day operations.

    I hope you got all that. Oh, and all the vicious name calling....after you take stockpile 101 - go take an anger management class man.


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    Hmmm, I most certainly do...half these posts are mine.
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    I asked you a simple question Tahuyaman...if you can't answer it just say so.
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