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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I think all China is doing is trying to close the potential gaps where the US can get the pointy end of the wedge in , to start agitating - it's in China's national interest (right or wrong). Don't try to claim that the US don't do that , because they've been doing it in full public view for many years - even stating it as government policy. This supposed concern for people's liberty and freedom , spreading democracy etc etc , is too worn out and abused to be believable any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    I think all China is doing is trying to close the potential gaps where the US can get the pointy end of the wedge in , to start agitating - it's in China's national interest (right or wrong). Don't try to claim that the US don't do that , because they've been doing it in full public view for many years - even stating it as government policy. This supposed concern for people's liberty and freedom , spreading democracy etc etc , is too worn out and abused to be believable any more.
    It appears to be in the national interest of China's neighbors to be wary of China and maintain good relations with the US. Talking about the US won't help allay the anxieties China's behavior has caused. nor will it do much to "close the potential gaps where the US can get the pointy end of the wedge in". It only helps matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Status quo for all nation. Great powers do it more because they have less constraints.
    Only in a unipolar world.....I think great powers are paranoid , because they have so much more to lose (or so they seem to think).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Only in a unipolar world.....I think great powers are paranoid , because they have so much more to lose (or so they seem to think).
    Russia and China certainly have along history of paranoia. It's a hangover from communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    It appears to be in the national interest of China's neighbors to be wary of China and maintain good relations with the US. Talking about the US won't help allay the anxieties China's behavior has caused. nor will it do much to "close the potential gaps where the US can get the pointy end of the wedge in". It only helps matters.
    That depends entirely on which version of the events you believe . The new Chinese law for Hong Kong is nothing like what the US media or politicians are saying , or trying to.....I think it's more about Trump's campaign strategy to water down the problems at home and keep people focused on China .....it also looks reasonable to assume that both Taiwan and Hong Kong will retain their high levels of autonomy under the Chinese proposals , as long as the calls for total independence from China are ended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Only in a unipolar world.....I think great powers are paranoid , because they have so much more to lose (or so they seem to think).
    What unipolar world? That ship sailed. The global international order is now more like pre-WWI great power competition.

    Great powers are not necessarily paranoid, although some (China) may be to a certain extent. They can do more on the international stage because they have less constraints on their power than lesser nations do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Russia and China certainly have along history of paranoia. It's a hangover from communism.
    Maybe ......I think the US is quite paranoid about any country that can challenge them in any way . It's the downside of declaring yourself exceptional . Russian military is basically on par with the US , and China has eclipsed the US economically......it seems to be a pride thing with Americans .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    That depends entirely on which version of the events you believe . The new Chinese law for Hong Kong is nothing like what the US media or politicians are saying , or trying to.....I think it's more about Trump's campaign strategy to water down the problems at home and keep people focused on China .....it also looks reasonable to assume that both Taiwan and Hong Kong will retain their high levels of autonomy under the Chinese proposals , as long as the calls for total independence from China are ended.
    These talking points are lame. Why is your government so bad at this? Do you seriously expect anyone...seriously anyone including you...to believe that China's tensions with her neighbors are due to
    Trump's campaign strategy? China persuades more by fear and duplicity than this nonsense. Wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Maybe ......I think the US is quite paranoid about any country that can challenge them in any way . It's the downside of declaring yourself exceptional . Russian military is basically on par with the US , and China has eclipsed the US economically......it seems to be a pride thing with Americans .
    The Russian military is not on par with he US. lol Anyway, great powers are all rivals. That's the nature of the game. You're bad at this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Maybe ......I think the US is quite paranoid about any country that can challenge them in any way . It's the downside of declaring yourself exceptional . Russian military is basically on par with the US , and China has eclipsed the US economically......it seems to be a pride thing with Americans .
    China has not eclipsed the US economically and the Russian comment here prove you know little about the US military. Just know we're strong enough to save your asses. Again.

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