You Got It All Wrong About God And Homosexuality

[Greenridgeman]

I often hear that term. What exactly are you recovering from?

Who knows what he means?

I have heard former Catholics use it to mean being free from ritualism and popeism.

[BillyBob]

I also love it when so called Christian's manipulate the scripture and twist words around to achieve Biblical support of their own hatred and bigotry

Do you have an example of such a thing because I have not seen anyone do that. However, I have seen plenty of non-Christians deny that the scriptures say what they clearly do.

while blindly forgetting Jesus teachings or the fact that only GOD can pass judgement

Thou shalt not judge lest he be judged himself

When a Christian mentions that $#@!ry is a sin and an abomination, he isn't judging, he is simply informing. Personally, I couldn't care less if you stick your dick in some guy's ass, it's no sweat off of my balls. But, it is a sin and an abomination according to the Bible. That much cannot be denied.

[jillian]

Do you have an example of such a thing because I have not seen anyone do that. However, I have seen plenty of non-Christians deny that the scriptures say what they clearly do.




When a Christian mentions that $#@!ry is a sin and an abomination, he isn't judging, he is simply informing. Personally, I couldn't care less if you stick your dick in some guy's ass, it's no sweat off of my balls. But, it is a sin and an abomination according to the Bible. That much cannot be denied.

when a christian does the above, he or she is not "informing" he or she is forgetting absolutely everything jesus said.

p.s. jesus never ever ever ever said a word about gays.

he said a LOT about taking care of the poor.

[BillyBob]

when a christian does the above, he or she is not "informing" he or she is forgetting absolutely everything jesus said.

How so?

p.s. jesus never ever ever ever said a word about gays.

he said a LOT about taking care of the poor.

Paul said this about homosexuality in Romans:

²⁴ Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. ²⁵ They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.


²⁶ Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. ²⁷ In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


So when Jerry Seinfeld says, 'Not that there's anything wrong with that!', he is mistaken and leading gays to a further life of sin. Of course, he's a Jew, so......

[BillyBob]

p.s. jesus never ever ever ever said a word about gays.

he said a LOT about taking care of the poor.

He said a LOT about sin and often specified it:


Mark 7:20 What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you.

[Micketto]

I also love it when so called Christian's manipulate the scripture and twist words around to achieve Biblical support of their own hatred and bigotry while blindly forgetting Jesus teachings or the fact that only GOD can pass judgement

Thou shalt not judge lest he be judged himself

Well all judge... and we judge all the time.
We judge who our potential friends might be, who we date/marry, who we work for/works for us, who we trust with our money, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc....
If you think God wants us to stop doing so.... you're crazy.

[jillian]

He said a LOT about sin and often specified it:


Mark 7:20 What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you.

wasn't that written about 35 years after jesus' death?

it's also thought, historically, to be written by various people and based on peter's teachings, not jesus.

at least that's my recollection.

but even if he did say or imply those things. did jesus say to judge your fellow man or did he say to leave that to heaven?

p.s. what is "sexual immorality"? i say it's rape. you think it's homosexuality.

i think it's not up to you to decide.

[BillyBob]

wasn't that written about 35 years after jesus' death?

it's also thought, historically, to be written by various people and based on peter's teachings, not jesus.

Ah, so now you are going to pick and choose which words of Jesus you want to use to make your point and which ones you want to reject because they prove your point invalid. Got it. lol

but even if he did say or imply those things. did jesus say to judge your fellow man or did he say to leave that to heaven?

He said that sexual immorality is a sin.

p.s. what is "sexual immorality"? i say it's rape. you think it's homosexuality.

i think it's not up to you to decide.

The Bible makes it clear that homosexual sex is a sin. If you wanna fantasize about rape, do it somewhere else.

[jillian]

Ah, so now you are going to pick and choose which words of Jesus you want to use to make your point and which ones you want to reject because their prove your point invalid. Got it. lol





He said that sexual immorality is a sin.




The Bible makes it clear that homosexual sex is a sin. If you wanna fantasize about rape, do it somewhere else.

my point is that i don't even think those are jesus' words 35 years after his death.

i'm not picking and choosing at all. but i do think an awful lot of religious zealots do... which is why, again, i ask... who was supposed to judge others', you? me? or heaven?

i vote heaven... there is nothing that contradicts that in anything jesus was supposed to have said.

[BillyBob]

my point is that i don't even think those are jesus' words 35 years after his death.

Why not? It's not unusual for people to chronicle what other's say, especially extraordinary people like Jesus. The Jews were particularly good at that sorta thing

i'm not picking and choosing at all. but i do think an awful lot of religious zealots do... which is why, again, i ask... who was supposed to judge others', you? me? or heaven?

Who's judging? We are merely pointing out that, according to the Bible, homosexuality is a sin. There are plenty of other sins, but this thread is dedicated to that particular one.

i vote heaven... there is nothing that contradicts that in anything jesus was supposed to have said.

How would you know what he said? You just invalidated the Gospels.