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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    To repeat the OP:
    White Americans tend not to think of themselves in terms of culture and ancestry because liberalism makes the individual the sum of all things. It's not that "whiteness" is normal. The deracinating effects of liberalism are perceived as normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    It's more dynamic than that, Sunnis and Shiites are two ideological factions, just like liberal and conservative are two ideological factions. Saying Black vs White is inaccurate because liberals encompass the majority of all races whereas conservatives may have one or two percent of non-whites. The actual directive is isolating the talking point that it is strictly a white/black issue when it is an issue of ideology. History has proven that the conservative ideology is responsible for preventing assimilation into "white culture" for generations, and now because it isn't PC to express hate as it once was, conservatives are screeching about how come black folks are not assimilating into "white culture" like other groups.
    That's incredibly wrong. Fully a quarter of blacks are conservative, and 43% consider themselves to be moderate.

    But black voters aren’t the monolith exit polls make them out to be. Pew Research Center found that a quarter of black Democrats identify as conservative, and 43 percent identify as moderate.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...arent-liberal/

    The only odd thing is that they're still hanging with the Democratic Party.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    Well, you have to admit, Trump gives plenty of wheat to the mill, lol. Personality wise, Obama was blah. It truly was his policies I had issues with.
    Same here. I always thought the Obamas would be fun neighbors, but I didn't like his foreign policies. They were awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    White Americans tend not to think of themselves in terms of culture and ancestry because liberalism makes the individual the sum of all things. It's not that "whiteness" is normal. The deracinating effects of liberalism are perceived as normal.
    I think that's generally true in melting pot America, but when pushed to think about it reach for things that do identify them like ancestry, ethnicity, religion.

    And it has been the aim of liberalism since the Enlightenment, right up until, enter stage left, postmodernism and identity politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    I don't think black and white culture will ever merge. Neither side wants to give in to the other. We both like who we are and what and how we think. We will forever be like the Sunnis and the Shiites, at each other's throats. One or the other of us will have to destroy the other completely.

    Barring a catastrophic event, such as an asteroid striking that kills the majority of the world's population and sends humanity back to the stone age, I think it's inevitable that black and white culture, religion, and race, will eventually meld completely. It may take a few hundred years, but I think it will happen. The artificial barriers that separate us are growing thinner by the year, and in many instances, they've already disappeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Same here. I always thought the Obamas would be fun neighbors, but I didn't like his foreign policies. They were awful.
    Michelle has a special on Netflix that's pretty good. Barack was on Seinfeld's "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" and was kind of funny.

    I didn't like his economic policies. I still remember, after his trying top-down and bottom-up, his middle-out idea (if you don't believe that see https://democracyjournal.org/news-ev...emocracy-role/).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I think that's generally true in melting pot America, but when pushed to think about it reach for things that do identify them like ancestry, ethnicity, religion.

    And it has been the aim of liberalism since the Enlightenment, right up until, enter stage left, postmodernism and identity politics.
    I think that is becoming more frequent. The positive side (as far as I'm concerned) of this rioting and general hatred for whites and America is that its pushing whites closer to identitarian politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I think that is becoming more frequent. The positive side (as far as I'm concerned) of this rioting and general hatred for whites and America is that its pushing whites closer to identitarian politics.
    It does but then whites are called racists for doing the same thing.

    I don't see it as a positive in that identifying as white is equally deracination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It does but then whites are called racists for doing the same thing.

    I don't see it as a positive in that identifying as white is equally deracination.
    And they're slowly but surely becoming exasperated by the double standard.

    It might be but it's a necessary step in the right direction. Like it or not, this is becoming a matter of our survival. I know you guys don't like it think this way but it's becoming increasingly clear. The rage and hatred directed toward our institutions, history and even our own persons should be a wake up call.
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