Poll: Most High School Boys Believe Rape is OK

[Greenridgeman]

Absolutely right.

Except the thread is about a dubious polls accusing the majority of boys of condoning rape, not about the "mentality of SOME high school boys".

I am not defending high school boys, I am condemning flamebaiting posts based on a dubious "poll".

[Peter1469]

Except the thread is about a dubious polls accusing the majority of boys of condoning rape, not about the "mentality of SOME high school boys".

I am not defending high school boys, I am condemning flamebaiting posts based on a dubious "poll".

I understand. I was responding to the pack mentality described by Adelaide.

[Greenridgeman]

I understand. I was responding to the pack mentality described by Adelaide.

I was referring to the pack mentality of the left when thrown red meat like that poll.

[Adelaide]

I was referring to the pack mentality of the left when thrown red meat like that poll.

I never said the poll was right. It was proven to be out of date and poorly executed. I'm saying that the foundation of the OP does have some merit, regardless of the study quoted. It's easy to see if you watch the news.

[Greenridgeman]

I never said the poll was right. It was proven to be out of date and poorly executed. I'm saying that the foundation of the OP does have some merit, regardless of the study quoted. It's easy to see if you watch the news.

No merit at all to the idea that "most" boys accept rape.

It was a flamebaiting post based on a "poll" that is more agit-prop than science, and was posted to incite discord, IMNSHO.

[Adelaide]

No merit at all to the idea that "most" boys accept rape.

It was a flamebaiting post based on a "poll" that is more agit-prop than science, and was posted to incite discord, IMNSHO.

No, but there is merit found in the fact that there is a trend that teenagers don't understand rape, which is the major point of the OP.

[Greenridgeman]

No, but there is merit found in the fact that there is a trend that teenagers don't understand rape, which is the major point of the OP.

Oh, they understand rape quite well, it is about power, humiliation and control.

A lot like the videos many are raised on.

I just see no evidence the majority accept rape as ok.

[Micketto]

This recent poll confirms

1978 doesn't seem all that "recent" to me.... nor does a 5 point scale seem to be much of a "poll".

Can't help but wonder why you (OP) have decided not to respond to any of this once this very old, vague study was called out. It was an interesting conversation about how an obsolete study can be made to look like anything, when the photo is edited just right, and especially when the web site hosting the photo was created solely to do so.

[Dr. Who]

If you look at Stuebenville, and now Rehtaeh Parsons in Nova Scotia, it says something about the mentality of some high school boys who really do not seem to understand rape, (when it is rape, the consequences for rape, etc.). I realise that these stories are not the norm, but the fact that a group of boys can rape a girl and then brag about and post pictures about it and none of their peers go to police? Something is very wrong.

I think it may have something to do with protecting children from the consequences of their actions in addition to the fact that as a society we are becoming less respectful of others. Kids model their parent's behavior, so if respect is in short supply at home, it's likely to be reflected in the way kids interact with others. Check out the behavior of some parents at hockey, football or soccer games where their children are participating. It's pretty outrageous. What does that teach the kids? What do some of these sports teach kids? Once upon a time kids participated in league sports for the fun of it. Not any more. Now they are taught such wonderful gems as "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing". Hence, if you're not a winner - you are a loser. Anyone who is perceived to be a loser, appears to be fair game for any manner of abuse.

For those who blame the media, I don't think that music, tv and video games corrupt kids who have good role models, but may reinforce poor behavior in those who don't. TV, music, movies and games tend to reflect societal values rather than influence them.