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    FluorideTrial: Ruling Delayed As Judge Asks Defense And Plaintiffs To Discuss New Evi

    Fluoride Trial: Ruling Delayed As Judge Asks Defense And Plaintiffs To Discuss New Evidence

    The Florida Action Network sued the FDA in the US District Court for the Northern District of California. The judge halted the trial so the parties can go over new evidence about fluoride.

    Over the last two weeks, Judge Chen has heard arguments from witnesses with the FAN and EPA. Attorneys with FAN argue that water fluoridation violates the 1970 Toxic Substances Control Act provisions which prohibit the “particular use” of a chemical which has been found to present an unreasonable risk to the general public. Under section 21 of the TSCA citizens are allowed to petition the EPA to regulate or ban individual chemicals.



    Judge Chen suggested the FAN file a new petition with the EPA, a suggestion which plaintiffs attorney Michael Connett was not eager to accept given the fact that it has taken four years to get the lawsuit to court. Connett told the court that the plaintiffs might not have the resources to continue this fight for another couple of years and cautioned against delaying a ruling because it would continue to endanger Americans due to ongoing fluoride exposure. The EPA’s attorneys were equally disinterested in a delayed ruling, stating that there is “no way” the EPA could conduct a review within the required 90 days.


    Judge Chen said he was only discussing delaying the ruling for another couple of months, not years. Chen also noted that the evidence presented by both sides went “well beyond administrative record, because so much has changed since that petition was filed” in 2016. “Doesn’t it make sense to have the agency take a second look?” Judge Chen asked the attorneys for the EPA and FAN.


    Judge Chen noted that the National Academy of Science is expected to publish a study later this year and the National Toxicology Program is working on a review of the literature on fluoride. These new studies, he said, should be considered by the EPA. The judge did acknowledge it is undisputed that fluoride can cause harm to the human brain and is a neurological hazard. The disagreement between EPA and FAN hinges on arguments over the levels at which fluoride causes neurological damage.
    So the delay is to wait for a new study to come out. The judge has already agreed that fluoride can cause harm to the human brain and is a neurological hazard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Fluoride Trial: Ruling Delayed As Judge Asks Defense And Plaintiffs To Discuss New Evidence

    The Florida Action Network sued the FDA in the US District Court for the Northern District of California. The judge halted the trial so the parties can go over new evidence about fluoride.



    So the delay is to wait for a new study to come out. The judge has already agreed that fluoride can cause harm to the human brain and is a neurological hazard.
    Just quit fluoridating water already, it's a stupid idea whose time has passed. Geez. I can't believe we're still debating this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Just quit fluoridating water already, it's a stupid idea whose time has passed. Geez. I can't believe we're still debating this.
    Many localities have done just that.

    I use a zero-one filter. It removes fluoride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Many localities have done just that.

    I use a zero-one filter. It removes fluoride.
    I'd like to get a reverse osmosis unit. We have well water, but use bottled distilled water for drinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I'd like to get a reverse osmosis unit. We have well water, but use bottled distilled water for drinking.
    That is a good idea too. Fluoride can absorb through the skin from showers / baths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    That is a good idea too. Fluoride can absorb through the skin from showers / baths.
    Geez, that's good to know. Not sure how much fluoride occurs naturally, but we do have a lot of iron in our water.
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    But you realize then what is allowable already, at the same levels or higher than fluoride additives.
    They are by National Standards:
    Chlorite
    Dichlorobenzene
    Ethylbenzene
    Glyphosate
    Picloram
    Toluene
    Xylenes

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Just quit fluoridating water already, it's a stupid idea whose time has passed. Geez. I can't believe we're still debating this.
    http://fluoridealert.org/content/communities/

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Geez, that's good to know. Not sure how much fluoride occurs naturally, but we do have a lot of iron in our water.
    Naturally occurring fluoride is not what is used in our water supply- that is industrial waste.
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    Update:

    Current Status of the Lawsuit

    After the closing arguments were presented, the judge made several comments on the record, including that the evidence presented by plaintiffs raises serious questions about the policy to fluoridate water supplies, and that the EPA had illegitimately denied FAN’s 2016 petition for TSCA action. The judge also noted that “the EPA, during these years of litigation, has used the wrong standard to assess this evidence,” Connett says.


    In the end, the judge asked that the two parties agree to give the EPA the chance to reassess the evidence correctly, using the right standard of review. Connett expressed his concern to the Court that the EPA has a history of dragging its feet on this issue and that there’s enough evidence to take immediate protective action.


    The judge in turn noted that he expects the EPA to conclude its re-evaluation within months, not years. Connett hopes they will be able to come to an agreement with the EPA, but if they don’t, the judge has made it clear that he has the evidence and will make a ruling, if needed.


    So, we still have to wait for the conclusion to this groundbreaking trial, but clearly, we are closer than we’ve ever been to seeing an end to this tragic and unnecessary poisoning of millions of individuals.
    Read earlier in the article for some of this facts established at the trial which shows the dangers of adding this neurotoxin to our water supply.
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