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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I think that I may have found my culprit. It just might be ants! I didn't know that ants ate vegitables but they are the only thing I can catch on or near the plants. Something was eating a squash flower and I found ants on it. When I moved a plant ants exploded out of the new site. So I looked it up and yup they could be the issue.
    However the Diatomaceous earth that Jigglepete recomended would work on the ants as well as slugs so I ordered some. In the meantime the article said that ants dislike strong smells ( I'm guessing is interfers with theie communication scents. ) So I picked some mint leaves and sprinkkle some cinnimon. Defending my garden is becoming a full time job!
    Did you check the pictures I linked? Does that look like the damage? Ants like sweets. They typically eat fruit. Strawberries in particular. They do appear en masse on plants that have aphids. They have a symbiotic relationship. The ants protect the aphids, and the aphids secret a sugary substance that the ants harvest.

    You might have aphids, but they wouldn't do the damage that you mentioned. If you think ants are your problem, a product named Terro works like magic. Very inexpensive. It's boric acid in corn syrup. They take it home, and it destroys the entire nest within days. Not gonna say that it 'can't' be ants on your cabbage, I've just never seen it. I grow broccoli, not cabbage. Stranger things can happen.


    You didn't find green caterpillars?




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    Quote Originally Posted by jigglepete View Post
    BTW if it is slugs, use diatomaceous earth and make sure it's food grade (obviously). And if it's not slugs, it might be caterpillars, or even earwigs...d.e. will protect against all of them, but a picture says a thousand words...

    I ordered some of that product and hope to apply it tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Nope...it might not be slugs. You notice those little white moths that flutter around your plants? They're cabbage moths. They lay eggs on the leaves. The eggs look like a pile of green insect feces. Said eggs hatch into cabbage loopers. Little green caterpillars that blend perfectly with the vegetation. They get fat and juicy if they live long enough. Look closely for green caterpillars. They can destroy your crop in a matter of days, and they love all brassicas.

    I use BT (bacillus thuringiensis) powder...commonly known as BT. It comes in spray, but brassica leaves tend to be rubbery and waterproof. BT harms nothing but caterpillars of any type. It paralyzes the gut and they starve. It's rated 0 as an organic pesticide, which means you can use it on the day you harvest


    https://www.google.com/search?q=cabb...EWzaBl4ZVLbAxM

    That looks like what is happening. I don't know why I can never find the pesky critters though. I'm treating for most everything.

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    Here's a list of all the cabbage eaters: https://entomology.ca.uky.edu/ef300
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    You might also consider adding some toad houses to your garden. Toads eat slugs and bugs but don't eat your plants.
    https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/pla...rden-slugs.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    You might also consider adding some toad houses to your garden. Toads eat slugs and bugs but don't eat your plants.
    https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/pla...rden-slugs.htm

    Maybe, although it's a small garden. 165 square feet plus a few buckets. Two years ago I produced more food out of that space then I ever would have believed possible. Not peppers and carrotts but heavy, solid produce like several forms of squash, over a dozen cabbage, tons of broc and over 1,000 tomates although most were cherry or grape. A great number of those never made it to the house! A bunch of eggplants as well and other produce.

    BUT over planting has it's down side, that's when the pest convention went of steroids! A hungry gopher, chipmonks tearing the garden up ( I've dispached 18 so far this year alone).Powdery Mildew , Rust, slugs, and who knows what else. So can you tell me what else please? ( Bad puns are kind of my thing) LOL.

    I thank you all for the suggestions I spread som D. Earth this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    You might also consider adding some toad houses to your garden. Toads eat slugs and bugs but don't eat your plants.
    https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/pla...rden-slugs.htm
    You mean frogs? If I had a garden and saw a frog looking at me from behind a tomato plant I'd run !
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Maybe, although it's a small garden. 165 square feet plus a few buckets. Two years ago I produced more food out of that space then I ever would have believed possible. Not peppers and carrotts but heavy, solid produce like several forms of squash, over a dozen cabbage, tons of broc and over 1,000 tomates although most were cherry or grape. A great number of those never made it to the house! A bunch of eggplants as well and other produce.

    BUT over planting has it's down side, that's when the pest convention went of steroids! A hungry gopher, chipmonks tearing the garden up ( I've dispached 18 so far this year alone).Powdery Mildew , Rust, slugs, and who knows what else. So can you tell me what else please? ( Bad puns are kind of my thing) LOL.

    I thank you all for the suggestions I spread som D. Earth this morning.
    As you can see in the link below, a toad house doesn't have to be very large. In fact, if you have an old smaller clay pot (even one that is damaged), you can just lay it on its side and sink that side into the ground. It just provides protection for the toad from the sun. The toads will come out at night and eat all your pests. If you are growing squash, hiding the toad house under the large squash leaves would be ideal. You should also keep a little dish of water nearby, also sunk into the ground.

    On the other hand, you could get a duck - they also like to eat what eats your garden, but they are higher maintenance than toads.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...mageBasicHover
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotton1 View Post
    You mean frogs? If I had a garden and saw a frog looking at me from behind a tomato plant I'd run !
    No, toads. Frogs like a more watery environment (except for tree frogs) whereas toads live on dry land. They are totally harmless - they don't even have teeth. They just swallow their food whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    As you can see in the link below, a toad house doesn't have to be very large. In fact, if you have an old smaller clay pot (even one that is damaged), you can just lay it on its side and sink that side into the ground. It just provides protection for the toad from the sun. The toads will come out at night and eat all your pests. If you are growing squash, hiding the toad house under the large squash leaves would be ideal. You should also keep a little dish of water nearby, also sunk into the ground.

    On the other hand, you could get a duck - they also like to eat what eats your garden, but they are higher maintenance than toads.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...mageBasicHover
    But you can eat the duck when after you harvest your garden.
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