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    Post 'A chain of stupidity': the Skripal case and the decline of Russia's spy agencies

    'A chain of stupidity': the Skripal case and the decline of Russia's spy agencies. The unmasking of the Salisbury poisoning suspects by a new digital journalism outfit was an embarrassment for Putin – and evidence that Russian spies are not what they once were.

    The GRU’s 2016 operation to interfere in the US election was a triumph. A few years later, however, the agency found itself in deep crisis. There were expulsions, indictments and staggering foreign mishaps. At home and abroad, Putin projected a strongman persona. Now he looked a little foolish. What had gone awry? According to the defector Viktor Suvorov, the decline in GRU standards was part of something larger. Suvorov – real name Vladimir Rezun – is a former GRU officer who fled to the UK from Geneva in 1978.

    Who was to blame for this? Other than Putin, the most obvious person was Igor Korobov, the GRU’s top commander. That autumn, Korobov’s standing inside Russia’s elite fell sharply. According to Kanev, the Ministry of Defence was awash with rumours that the GRU was due for a clearout, with generals likely to be asked to leave. There was talk of “deep incompetence”, “boundless carelessness” and “morons”.

    Now, Korobov is dead.

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    The Soviets and Russia do that- kill off defectors. That is why I was surprised it didn't happen to that pilot who defected with the MIG (25 if I recall correctly).
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    Thats why Trump is right that China is our greatest threat not russia...but soon it wont matter the left will take us from a world power to a World pile of $#@!
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    Clutch them straws ! ....(lol) . There is still not a shred of credible evidence that Russia was responsible for the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter .....just another false flag operation . Nice try though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Clutch them straws ! ....(lol) . There is still not a shred of credible evidence that Russia was responsible for the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter .....just another false flag operation . Nice try though .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Da comrade!
    If you personally have evidence that Russia was responsible for the poisonings , throw it on the table - the whole world is still waiting to see it , comrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Clutch them straws ! ....(lol) . There is still not a shred of credible evidence that Russia was responsible for the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter .....just another false flag operation . Nice try though .
    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    If you personally have evidence that Russia was responsible for the poisonings , throw it on the table - the whole world is still waiting to see it , comrade.
    Naturally. As if on cue.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Naturally. As if on cue.....
    you can't be serious ? ....(lol).....so , are you claiming to have some evidence ?.....do you even acknowledge that NO evidence has ever been produced , apart from unsubstantiated media stories ?

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    Yes he is serious.

    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    you can't be serious ? ....(lol).....so , are you claiming to have some evidence ?.....do you even acknowledge that NO evidence has ever been produced , apart from unsubstantiated media stories ?
    And he is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Yes he is serious.


    And he is correct.
    There only 3 things that could make either of you guys correct - evidence , evidence or evidence !

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