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    We Swear To God This Is A Real Washington Post Headline

    We Swear To God This Is A Real Washington Post Headline
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    The Washington Post tried to push back on President Donald Trump’s claim that the most dangerous cities in America are run by Democrats – but the graph provided largely proved Trump’s point.
    Trump said Wednesday that “every one” of America’s “20 most dangerous” cities “are Democrat run.” WaPo’s analysis headline wrote that “Trump keeps claiming that the most dangerous cities in America are all run by Democrats. They aren’t.”

    The article, however, did not provide a single city run by a Republican in the top 20 most violent cities per capita. According to data WaPo gathered to disprove Trump, 19 of the 20 cities with the most violent crime per 10,000 residents are run by Democrats. The lone city on the per capita list not run by a Democrat is run by an Independent.
    “Most of the current mayors of these cities are Democrats,” WaPo admitted. “Two of the mayors of cities with the most reported violent crimes overall, though, are independents and one, the mayor of Jacksonville, Fla., is a Republican. Among the 20 cities with the most violent crime per capita, one isn’t a Democrat: the independent mayor of Springfield, Mo.”
    WaPo’s article continued on to try and explain why most of the violent cities are run by Democrats – after trying to prove that they aren’t.

    “Cities generally have more crime than suburban and rural areas,” according to the article, which added “that cities tend to be heavily Democratic.”
    “Since there’s a correlation between size and amount of crime and between size and propensity to vote Democratic, it’s problematic to draw a causal relationship between crime and Democratic leadership,” WaPo’s analysis claimed. “It may be the case that cities with more crime are more likely to have Democratic leaders. Such a comparison, though, is fraught, relying on the validity of reported crime data, the metric used to establish which cities are included in the analysis, the time period under consideration and so on.”
    WaPo was roundly mocked for the analysis following publication.
    “So many things wrong with this piece,” National Review writer David Harsanyi tweeted. “Most obvious, headline says, ‘Trump keeps claiming that the most dangerous cities in America are all run by Democrats. They aren’t.’ [WaPo national correspondent Philip] Bump finds ONE city run by a Republican.”
    Harsanyi added that “Trump is factually right” and called out Bump, the article’s author, for changing course. Bump appeared to try to justify why the most dangerous cities in America are run by Democrats midway through the article.

    “The most unintentionally hilarious thing I’ve seen in awhile,” Blaze Media’s CEO Tyler Cardon tweeted. “Severe TDS detected.”
    Republican Texas Rep. Chip Roy commented on the article as well, joking that Trump “is telling such clear falsehoods about crime & party leadership………. oh, wait….”

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/27/w...run-democrats/

    ...then we get back to that Baltimore thing............
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    WaPo abandoned journalism a long time ago.
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    The WaPo headline is misleading. While Trimp might be guilty of overgeneralization, WaPo in declaring "They're aren't" is equally guilty.

    San Antonio is ranked as one of the most dangerous cities. It's run by Democrats. "Although Nirenberg identifies as an independent[17] and ran for office as a nonpartisan politician (in Texas, all municipal elections are officially nonpartisan), he was considered to have run on a more progressive platform. In 2013, Nirenberg endorsed a city ordinance which bans discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.... As mayor-elect, Nirenberg called upon the city council to endorse the Paris climate accord.... In 2019, Nirenberg led the charge to have a Chick-fil-A restaurant removed from the concessions contract at the San Antonio International Airport, citing a conflict with the company's opposition of same-sex marriage." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Nirenberg
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    She probably figured that Democrats will just read the headline.
    Even though some cities have elections that are at large elections with no political party listed, they still know the policies of the people elected.
    @Chris stole my example of San Antonio. Also, the home of Julian Castro on the City council.
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    Correlation does not equal causation, as anyone who has ever taken a Basic Logic class can tell you.

    Read...learn...think.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ch/3248102001/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Correlation does not equal causation, as anyone who has ever taken a Basic Logic class can tell you.

    Read...learn...think.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ch/3248102001/
    Per your link:

    “I don’t think there’s any data that would allow us to draw a causal conclusion here,” said David Weisburd, executive director of the Center for Evidence Based Crime Policy at George Mason University. “Somehow arguing that Democrats cause crime or something of that sort just doesn’t fit the history of crime prevention in the U.S.”
    That's true, but is that the claim here?

    No, the claim is about WaPo's fake news.

    Moreover, I don't think any reasonable person would claim Democrats cause crime. At least not directly. Though their policies and programs might create conditions that foster crime, like increase the number of fatherless families. Or it might be asked what Democrats are doing about crime, especially in cities they run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    WaPo abandoned journalism a long time ago.
    Fact checks and proof reading as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Correlation does not equal causation, as anyone who has ever taken a Basic Logic class can tell you.

    Read...learn...think.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ch/3248102001/

    The idea that we do not know who runs the cities is ridiculous. Even at-large non-party affiliated elections everyone knows which party is being represented by policy. My area is that way and I ask the new candidate at the front door (or where I meet them) what party he belongs to. That gives me a better understanding of his fiscal views and priorities.

    The representatives that are voted into office do determine the crime rate of the area. That means everything from jobs to being tough on crime to keeping criminals in jail. You cannot stop crime but you can effect the incentives and punishments.

    This USA article is just garbage. There is a reason why the lowest rung of society is out there trying to destroy the police departments that are dedicated to stopping them from being criminals.

    We need a new word "Thug-splaining". That is when criminals try to explain that they will play nice if you just get rid of the cops and the jails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Correlation does not equal causation, as anyone who has ever taken a Basic Logic class can tell you.

    Read...learn...think.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ch/3248102001/
    Most of these cities are run, totally, by democrats. From the state level through the local level. There are many outlier areas that support one group or the other in other states, but when you talk about Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, LA, Miami, Baltimore, etc., you also have to consider just who is suppose to be making the citizens safer and more productive within their communities, The powers that be haven't offered the kind of help these folks really need, a hand up, not a hand out. Help them keep their communities in better shape.
    Now, from what we can see and read about, none of these cities who are democrat controlled have gotten that proverbial hand up. And when they need the police more than ever, that service is getting reduced. It is important that in many of these cities, firearm ownership is next to prohibited. There are now a great many people who don't have protection against criminals. None.
    Now, I have to agree with you on the one point that the democrats didn't start this, however, they have done little to nothing to make things better being corrupt, for the most part, themselves. Many democrats are becoming millionaires while lording over their "citizenry." How is that possible?
    Independents can either be conservative, moderate, or liberal. There is the occasional true Independent, but they are rare. Their actions speak to their real political beliefs.
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    Look. How many times and how loud would the D's be screaming if these were R cities? We all know the answer.

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