Originally Posted by
CenterField
OK, I'll revise my views on Susan Rice. Frankly (and you can call me ignorant) I was not aware of that.
As of for the other things you said, most are true, some I'd dispute. The travel ban, for example, was very incomplete with an estimated 40,000 arrivals from China being still allowed (Chinese US permanent residents, American citizens and their Chinese first degree relatives, etc.) with no testing or quarantine. These people traveled to points all over the country. The initial ban on Europe for some incomprehensible reason (which I believe to be ideological since Trump sees the UK prime minister as an ideological brother) didn't include the UK, which is one of the epicenters. Then later it did.
Trump was definitely not correct on the use of HCQ in my opinion too, not just the CDC and WHO. I don't want to open another Pandora box but I'd be able to discuss this topic for dozens of my usually over-long posts, to explain why I believe he was wrong. Yes, there was a fake, fraudulent study discrediting HCQ and that's despicable, but there are plenty of other good quality and unbiased studies (to the degree that anything can be unbiased, these days) that do not support the use of HCQ for COVID-19. The protocol I consider the best, the EVMS, used to indicate HCQ. Now it has been removed from it, and specific wording was added to avoid it for COVID-19. Yes, Trump jumped ahead of science on this one, and frankly, I didn't appreciate that he was dispensing medical advice to the population "you have nothing to lose, take it" from the White House press room. Trump is not an MD. Anyway, I'm already opening this Pandora box... but frankly, I don't know if I'll have the desire and the energy to start it all over again and explain in medical detail why HCQ for COVID-19 is not a good idea (while it remains a good idea for lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and malaria). I've debated it too much in another forum I used to be a member of before I joined here, and I'm sick and tired of this topic. But if you want the short version of my opinion, yes, Trump was wrong on HCQ.
The adminstration was also wrong in the issue of testing, at the beginning. It's been corrected (regarding authorizations for flawed test kits). Recently Trump tried to downplay the important of testing, and I didn't like it. Fortunately he reversed course and I praised him for it.
So, it's not like the Trump administration didn't make mistakes.
Why do you insist with the governors part? Have I ever exempted them from their boneheaded actions? No. I said I blame them too.
Wait, are you using the "But Obama" defense on me??? FYI, Obama is no longer the president of the United States and he is not a candidate (actually constitutionally he can't be) so, who cares what Obama did or didn't do for SARS or Ebola??? I mean, you can lament it, but it doesn't solve the problem of what to do next for COVID-19.
I could say more but I'm out of time. See ya.