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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Socialists and communists want to abolish capitalism in favor of an entirely different system. Communists, in particular, want to abolish capitalism and the state. If you want to establish a socialist society, you don't do everything in your power to keep socialists from running your party and instead choose corporate capitalists to run it.
    Modern Democrats want to abolish capitalism as we practice it and establish a new cooperative type system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Modern Democrats want to abolish capitalism as we practice it and establish a new cooperative type system.
    How?
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    How?
    They want workers to own businesses and corporations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    They want workers to own businesses and corporations.
    I know Bernie Sanders has proposed this. Where have other Democrats?
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I know Bernie Sanders has proposed this. Where have other Democrats?
    C'mon, G.A. You know as well as I do that the Right can have all the fringe extremists and nut cases in the world and conservatives are free to disavow them at any time...but if any one liberal proposes something crazy, off the wall or unlikely, all liberals are automatically guilty of believing it. If you deny believing anything you're accused of believing on that basis, then of course you're a liar. We all know how this works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    C'mon, G.A. You know as well as I do that the Right can have all the fringe extremists and nut cases in the world and conservatives are free to disavow them at any time...but if any one liberal proposes something crazy, off the wall or unlikely, all liberals are automatically guilty of believing it. If you deny believing anything you're accused of believing on that basis, then of course you're a liar. We all know how this works.
    You mean like the statement all Republicans are racist ?? Like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    C'mon, G.A. You know as well as I do that the Right can have all the fringe extremists and nut cases in the world and conservatives are free to disavow them at any time...but if any one liberal proposes something crazy, off the wall or unlikely, all liberals are automatically guilty of believing it. If you deny believing anything you're accused of believing on that basis, then of course you're a liar. We all know how this works.
    Of course, that tactic was invented by the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    I know Bernie Sanders has proposed this. Where have other Democrats?
    The newly elected Democrats such as AOC and the so called "squad". That mind set is spreading rapidly within the ranks of the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    C'mon, G.A. You know as well as I do that the Right can have all the fringe extremists and nut cases in the world and conservatives are free to disavow them at any time...but if any one liberal proposes something crazy, off the wall or unlikely, all liberals are automatically guilty of believing it. If you deny believing anything you're accused of believing on that basis, then of course you're a liar. We all know how this works.
    What crazy or extremist ideas are being advocated by conservative elected officials or a mainstream conservative presidential candidate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Of course, that tactic was invented by the left.
    I liked you a lot more when you weren't a right-wing hack.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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