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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    "It is precisely the success of the president Evo Morales’ economic model which makes Bolivia such an attractive target for regime-change and neo-liberal economic looting"
    A true success of an economic program wouldn't make the country which has carried it an "attractive target", it makes it an impossible target. if the government of Bolivia is not stable and a coup can be organized this easily, then there is something wrong with that government and its economic program.

    The way to stand against foreign intervention is not supporting this corrupt government and its failed program, but presenting the correct alternative to masses, thus making their movement organized, planned and class-conscious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Are you trying to say that a 51% controlling interest in developing and extremely profitable resource industry in Bolivia is a bad deal ? I thought you understood business......I think it's a far far better deal than a coup to get rid of a very successful leader that has substantially improved the economy and standard of living for all Bolivians.
    Absolutely not, it's a great deal. I'm trying to say your focus on John Bolton and American 'neo-imperialism' is misplaced. And I'm trying to say you're ignorant of Chinese neo-imperialism that's right in front of your face, especially in Bolivia where you started this thread. China is the neo-imperial power that is primarily focused on Bolivian lithium or natural resources an that fact totally escapes you, you're utterly ignorant to it.....and of the reality because of your anti-US agenda. Again.....your integrity takes another massive hit, you really should start to know what the fck you're spouting off about. Homework PJL.

    Much like the covid issue. China....is blaming you PJL.....Australia for spearheading the criticism against China. And you're criticizing the US for it's criticism of China. Here on your Bolivia thread, your statements are utterly ignorant of Chinese neo-imperialism while you example John Bolton.

    Smarten the fck up, PJL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    A true success of an economic program wouldn't make the country which has carried it an "attractive target", it makes it an impossible target. if the government of Bolivia is not stable and a coup can be organized this easily, then there is something wrong with that government and its economic program.

    The way to stand against foreign intervention is not supporting this corrupt government and its failed program, but presenting the correct alternative to masses, thus making their movement organized, planned and class-conscious.
    I just exampled foreign intervention, Javad. Chinese intervention targeting natural resources in Bolivia...….however for some reason I wouldn't think you'd have a problem with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Absolutely not, it's a great deal. I'm trying to say your focus on John Bolton and American 'neo-imperialism' is misplaced. And I'm trying to say you're ignorant of Chinese neo-imperialism that's right in front of your face, especially in Bolivia where you started this thread. China is the neo-imperial power that is primarily focused on Bolivian lithium or natural resources an that fact totally escapes you, you're utterly ignorant to it.....and of the reality because of your anti-US agenda. Again.....your integrity takes another massive hit, you really should start to know what the fck you're spouting off about. Homework PJL.

    Much like the covid issue. China....is blaming you PJL.....Australia for spearheading the criticism against China. And you're criticizing the US for it's criticism of China. Here on your Bolivia thread, your statements are utterly ignorant of Chinese neo-imperialism while you example John Bolton.

    Smarten the fck up, PJL.
    How can an investment deal , where a country makes a lot of money and still holds the majority control of the industry , be regarded as neo-imperialism ?....(lol).......you have upgraded yourself from being a follower , to a creator of fake news , Ransom.......(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    How can an investment deal , where a country makes a lot of money and still holds the majority control of the industry , be regarded as neo-imperialism ?....(lol).......you have upgraded yourself from being a follower , to a creator of fake news , Ransom.......(lol)
    You just got caught not having the slightest f'n idea what you're spouting off about. Homework first, comment second.

    Wow.

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    Germany and China targeting Bolivian natural resources, not John Bolton who isn't in office anymore or the US.

    This is an utterly ignorant thread start, one hopes its' author smartens the fck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    But as soon as you start a post with "I think US.....", you've lost me and most posters here. Fck ups have consequences
    How ever told you I care , was being disingenuous with you......(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    A true success of an economic program wouldn't make the country which has carried it an "attractive target", it makes it an impossible target. if the government of Bolivia is not stable and a coup can be organized this easily, then there is something wrong with that government and its economic program.

    The way to stand against foreign intervention is not supporting this corrupt government and its failed program, but presenting the correct alternative to masses, thus making their movement organized, planned and class-conscious.
    flawed logic .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    How ever told you I care , was being disingenuous with you......(lol)
    It was you who told me, PJL. I can tell you don't care about issues you're spouting off about....because you're so uninformed and frankly, ignorant. This Bolivia thread start was a complete and utter fck up, the covid issue was even worse.

    Your John Bolton comment wasn't even accurate and exposed your game....and it's you Australians....not the US putting most of this covid blame on China and yet you focus on Trump....and it's because you don't have the slightest f'n idea what you're rambling on about. Smarten the fck up, PJL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    flawed logic .
    javad is a communist what other kind of logic could he possibly be using.

    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often, PJL.

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