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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    What????

    If you want corruption you need look no further than Socialism and Communism.

    Capitalism has a self fix for corruption it is called competition.

    Now in the USA we are becoming more and more socialist, and that is breeding all kinds of corruption. When the Government picks the winners and losers instead of the market, that is where the corruption comes in.

    Ain't Socialism GREAT
    ......such nonsense ! ....(lol) .....levels of corruption in other countries are their problem , and have no effect on your level of corruption.......cancer is invasive , but it ain't contagious .......like greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Capitalism's existence the reason we have no more world wars
    Both of world wars started by Capitalist countries and for capitalists interests. It was the international proletariat which revolted against the war, called the proletariat and toiling masses of the belligerent countries to unite against the warmongers. if today there is no war between the advanced imperialist countries, its simply because such a war cannot have a victor. weapons of mass destruction will destroy both sides. instead, we have proxy wars between their neo-colonies and dependent countries.

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    But mostly supported freedom and capitalism.
    it has always supported capitalism but never freedom. whenever it's interested required supporting a backward and dictatorial regime, it never hesitated.

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    Capitalism and western culture the reason you speak English and have the freedom to make the mistakes you're making.
    1- Feudalism was also the reason of freedom for slaves, it also was the reason that the grounds became ready for capitalism. before that, slavery was the reason that prisoners and criminal weren't sacrificed or eaten. but that didn't stopped the bourgeoisie, peasants or slaves from struggling against those systems in favor of a better one.
    2- I don't have freedom. your government organized a coup in my country which overthrew the prime minister (Mosaddeg) and replaced the government with an absolute monarchy in 1953. we never had a democratic government after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    Both of world wars started by Capitalist countries and for capitalists interests. It was the international proletariat which revolted against the war, called the proletariat and toiling masses of the belligerent countries to unite against the warmongers. if today there is no war between the advanced imperialist countries, its simply because such a war cannot have a victor. weapons of mass destruction will destroy both sides. instead, we have proxy wars between their neo-colonies and dependent countries.



    it has always supported capitalism but never freedom. whenever it's interested required supporting a backward and dictatorial regime, it never hesitated.



    1- Feudalism was also the reason of freedom for slaves, it also was the reason that the grounds became ready for capitalism. before that, slavery was the reason that prisoners and criminal weren't sacrificed or eaten. but that didn't stopped the bourgeoisie, peasants or slaves from struggling against those systems in favor of a better one.
    2- I don't have freedom. your government organized a coup in my country which overthrew the prime minister (Mosaddeg) and replaced the government with an absolute monarchy in 1953. we never had a democratic government after that.

    didnt you country put you in jail for being a commie

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    didnt you country put you in jail for being a commie
    So what? that justifies your position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    Both of world wars started by Capitalist countries and for capitalists interests. It was the international proletariat which revolted against the war, called the proletariat and toiling masses of the belligerent countries to unite against the warmongers. if today there is no war between the advanced imperialist countries, its simply because such a war cannot have a victor. weapons of mass destruction will destroy both sides. instead, we have proxy wars between their neo-colonies and dependent countries.
    Both wars started by socialist countries and dictatorships, your history fails you again. Or lack thereof. Wow. And after WWII, we stayed to keep a communist country from dropping an iron curtain on Europe.....that we rebuilt. You're only wrong by 180 degrees.



    it has always supported capitalism but never freedom. whenever it's interested required supporting a backward and dictatorial regime, it never hesitated.
    It supported freedom with countless examples, it was dictatorships like Japan and Mother Russia who we stood against. I can offer some great reads.


    1- Feudalism was also the reason of freedom for slaves, it also was the reason that the grounds became ready for capitalism. before that, slavery was the reason that prisoners and criminal weren't sacrificed or eaten. but that didn't stopped the bourgeoisie, peasants or slaves from struggling against those systems in favor of a better one.
    Cause...Rome never killed it's slaves or prisoners, huh? The Ottoman Empire's slavery and prisons are legendary..many sacrificed.

    Gosh but you're smart.

    2- I don't have freedom. your government organized a coup in my country which overthrew the prime minister (Mosaddeg) and replaced the government with an absolute monarchy in 1953. we never had a democratic government after that.
    You'd have freedoms should you be a US citizen. And you cannot deny you've got every right to make massive errors like the 3-4 you just made. No one can say Javad don't have the right to argue full of shiit arguments, that much is clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Both wars started by socialist countries and dictatorships, your history fails you again. Or lack thereof. Wow. And after WWII, we stayed to keep a communist country from dropping an iron curtain on Europe.....that we rebuilt. You're only wrong by 180 degrees.





    It supported freedom with countless examples, it was dictatorships like Japan and Mother Russia who we stood against. I can offer some great reads.




    Cause...Rome never killed it's slaves or prisoners, huh? The Ottoman Empire's slavery and prisons are legendary..many sacrificed.

    Gosh but you're smart.



    You'd have freedoms should you be a US citizen. And you cannot deny you've got every right to make massive errors like the 3-4 you just made. No one can say Javad don't have the right to argue full of shiit arguments, that much is clear.
    You're dribbling Ransom. Did you write that speech while standing under the Mount Rushmore statues ? ...(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    You're dribbling Ransom. Did you write that speech while standing under the Mount Rushmore statues ? ...(lol)
    Did you respond while using your cure for cancer again ?

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