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    why communism sucks

    this is just the first installment of many to come on commies and socialist




    http://stakedintheheart.com/2018/09/...mmunism-sucks/

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    I couldn't open that link, but why should bourgeoisie intellectuals write on such subjects this much?

    According to them communism was finished with USSR, so why do they waste their time by writing about it? isn't it because they consider it a threat? isn't it because they know it's not finished and the proletarian struggle will bring it forward? isn't it because they know that countries like USSR (after it's early years) weren't representing socialism and communism?

    Do people of France despise the commune of Paris? Do people of Russia and the world hated the October revolution because it put an end to the imperialist war, distributed land for peasants, allowed the worker control over factories, established the power of councils of workers, peasants and soldiers deputies and ... ? No. they changed their minds when the bourgeoisie came back to power and rulers accepted a bourgeois line and same moral values which the rulers of other countries had.

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    Prior to the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the archival revelations, some historians estimated that the numbers killed by Stalin's regime were 20 million or higher.[4][5][6] After the USSR dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives was declassified and researchers were allowed to study it. This contained official records of 799,455 executions (1921–1953),[7] around 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag,[8][9] some 390,000[10] deaths during the dekulakization forced resettlement, and up to 400,000 deaths of persons deported during the 1940s[11] – with a total of about 3.3 million officially recorded victims in these categories.[12] The deaths of at least 5.5 to 6.5 million[13] persons in the famine of 1932–33 are sometimes, but not always,[2][14] included with the victims of the Stalin era.

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    Great Leap Forward poster Scholars believe that Mao in some way was involved in the death of at least 40 million people and possibly as many as 80 million, more deaths during peace time than any other leader. Most of them perished during the Great Famine in the late 1950s, which followed the Great Leap Forward. Millions more may have died in the Cultural Revolution. In comparison, Hitler was responsible for 12 million concentration camps deaths and Stalin killed between 30 and 40 million during the purges and famines of the 1920s and 30s.
    Responding to a comparison with him and China's brutal first emperor Qui Shi Huangdi Mao said in 1969, "What was so remarkable about Qin Shi Huangdi? He executed 460 scholars. We executed 46,000 of them!...You think you insult us by saying we are like Qin Shi Huangdi, but you make a mistake, we have passed him a hundred times!" [Sources: Simon Leys, Chinese Shadows]
    “How many hard-working farmers died of starvation during the last 60 years? How many mistakes were made? How many good and honest people have died?” wrote Bao Tong, once a senior official and now a dissident. On the Chinese Communist Party destroying traditional values, Yang Jisheng, author an authoritative account of the Great Famine, told the New York Review of Books, “Traditional values involve valuing life, valuing others, not doing unto others what you don't want done to yourself. All of these values were negated. From 1950 onward, the Communists criticized the passing down of traditional values. There was a moral vacuum."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    I couldn't open that link, but why should bourgeoisie intellectuals write on such subjects this much?

    According to them communism was finished with USSR, so why do they waste their time by writing about it? isn't it because they consider it a threat? isn't it because they know it's not finished and the proletarian struggle will bring it forward? isn't it because they know that countries like USSR (after it's early years) weren't representing socialism and communism?

    Do people of France despise the commune of Paris? Do people of Russia and the world hated the October revolution because it put an end to the imperialist war, distributed land for peasants, allowed the worker control over factories, established the power of councils of workers, peasants and soldiers deputies and ... ? No. they changed their minds when the bourgeoisie came back to power and rulers accepted a bourgeois line and same moral values which the rulers of other countries had.

    communism sucks its that simple and Russia is still ruled by one and has lots on commie ways

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