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    Out here in high desert country, we generally take the attitude that if it is anything other than Sagebrush or Chamisa and it is able to survive and grow, leave it alone and cheer for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Poison Ivy has that opposing thumb thing going on. This is not poison ivy
    In the picture it's hard to see the leaf arrangement. I know what you mean by the opposing thumb thing, but poison ivy doesn't always have that feature - see pictures below. That's why people get confused.






    "Poison ivy can be a bit of a chameleon. It looks similar to several common backyard plants including Virginia creeper and boxelder. The leaves of poison ivy may be shiny or dull and the leaf margins may be toothed or wavy, or have no teeth at all. The leaves may be hairy, or have no hairs at all. Its appearance can vary greatly, but in all cases it has compound leaves that consist of three leaflets. The leaflets are 2-5 inches long, green during the growing season and turning scarlet red in fall. The leaves are arranged in an alternate pattern on the stem. The terminal (end) leaflet has a longer stalk than the lateral (side) leaflets."
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    I believe that is Virginia Creeper. I have an app on my phone named Plantnet It's been very helpful to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Which is why you don't want to kill the snakes. Unless you are fond of mice for some reason.
    General rules in my house/yard: Anything with more than 4 legs, or less than 2, are not welcome. While I prefer mice over snakes, that would be OUTSIDE, thank you.

    Have I told you the story about my cat bringing baby snakes into the house?......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    General rules in my house/yard: Anything with more than 4 legs, or less than 2, are not welcome. While I prefer mice over snakes, that would be OUTSIDE, thank you.

    Have I told you the story about my cat bringing baby snakes into the house?......
    Eek, no.

    One of our cats fought with a large snake, we thought was a copperhead. Saw it strike him multiple times. Emergency vet visit, shots, and 300 bucks later.....it was a milk snake. We did kill that snake, just to get the cat away from it. Plus, the emergency vet told us to bring it for identification. I felt bad for the snake.
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    I'd say it's Boston Ivy. There are a couple different varieties of that, so not every picture of it you can find online will have the same leaf shape.

    Virginia Creeper is similar, but the 5-leaflets are skinnier and fairly uniform, and it doesn't form dense surface mats like that.

    To kill any big vine or woody plant, the treatment is the same. Cut it off at the base and immediately (within a minute) apply 20% glyphosate solution to the freshly cut stump. That's gives me a 99% success rate at permanently killing anything, and it only takes a little bit.

    Standard RoundUp is about 2.5% glyphosate. That's not strong enough. To get 20%, you have to go to Rural King, Tractor Supply Company or a similar store, and buy a 2.5 gallon jug of 41% glyphosate. You pour some of that into a small spray bottle and dilute it 50/50 with water to get a 20% solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Eek, no.

    One of our cats fought with a large snake, we thought was a copperhead. Saw it strike him multiple times. Emergency vet visit, shots, and 300 bucks later.....it was a milk snake. We did kill that snake, just to get the cat away from it. Plus, the emergency vet told us to bring it for identification. I felt bad for the snake.
    Around these parts, corn snakes are regular visitors. They can be very aggressive and will rip you a new one if they get a hold of you.
    Non-poisonous, but m e a n
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    We get a lot of wild grape in my area. My buddies wife said it was Virginia creeper.
    Virginia Creeper. Often mistaken for poison ivy. As with any vine, find the source and cut it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Looks like Virginia creeper to moi. I usually cut it at the base and mark the spot with orange marking paint. When it starts to sprout up again, I hit it with a schpritz of Round Up. I know people are askeered of Round Up these days. Just don't drink it, or douse your nekid body in it, you'll be fine.
    Roundup works on emergent plants. I do what you suggested. Cut it at the base. Pull it out if possible. Roundup works very well on established growth. I use it when I find poison ivy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    The orange marking paint is an excellent idea.
    I won't get into the argument on Round up, an indiscriminate systemic chemical that's residue makes the ground that soaks it up toxic for any life form.
    I don't buy Roundup because I won't support Monsanto/Bayer. According to their propaganda, magic soil bacteria eat the glyphosate. I think it's fine for ridding areas of nuisance flora.

    I don't believe in dousing our food supply with it.

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