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    So could slavery take place in the USA again?

    Well the short answer is NO! Not in the form of what the past was.

    But how about a class of people that are not owned by a person, but are really owned by the government?

    Let's take a closer look at what is currently happening. Why must Christopher Columbus Statues come down? Why do we need to take down all of the founding fathers Why must anything that has do do with the civil war be removed from the public areas of the country?

    Why is it that Sports teams have to change their names, Highschool's need new mascots, even some businesses and products Uncle Ben's Aunt Jemima

    What do all of these have in common! They might be offensive to someone?

    But more importantly, they are paths to the real history of our nation. Now has everything in our past in this country been good or even right? NO.

    Let's just take a look at a few thing's Slavery. The USA was the only country in the world to have Slaves right????? Wrong! In 1834 Britain Abolished The importation of Slaves and Slavery in some parts of the country. But expanded it's slave trade to other parts of he empire India started to regulate and abolish Slavery in 1843, Did Africa have slavery? YES and it was not abolished until 1865 and only then because of the USA civil war. And on the Asian continent it was 1906 before laws abolishing slavery were enacted. WOW slavery was all over the world. Not just in the USA

    But History must be forgotten, and one must ask why.

    Well lets look at what is happening in the USA, National Debt will likely hit 30 Trillion this year, and experts believe that the tipping point was around 26 trillion. Services to the public are going to have to be cut.

    Riots are happening in the streets of the USA, Liberal officials that support socialism are telling the people that we need to defund the police and you guessed it, enact strict gun laws. Which is the only thing that is keeping the left from following the rest of the socialist countries and forcing socialism on the people

    So what will happen when the money runs out in our poor and minority communities.... Well they will be given a task or jobs to do and in return they will get money??? NO they will receive food and housing! They will at first work in their own neighborhoods but then the government will charge those that can afford it and these people will start to preform tasks for the wealthier sector of the population.

    What would you call it if the government forced you to work for the wealthy and you receive lodging and food but no money?

    But the memory of what slavery was will be gone from the public eye and from the history book only to be rewritten by the liberal politicians that enact the compassionate polices, that bring about what they have wanted since they lost the civil war

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

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    Silicone Valley presently shelters the world's biggest slavers outside China and Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    .....But the memory of what slavery was will be gone from the public eye and from the history book only to be rewritten by the liberal politicians that enact the compassionate polices, that bring about what they have wanted since they lost the civil war
    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
    It is kinda funny how words such as 'liberal' come to control understanding for some. Above, a bunch of words that really made little sense to inform us in the mind of the writer that 'liberals' lost the Civil War. They did? Who knew. American education where did you go?


    Notes on Civil war below, as for the premise that slavery will return, no chance, owning humans isn't gonna happen, but there is corporate and business and their controls without unions and representation that could be a interesting topic to examine.

    "Her conclusion is that the Americans who fought the Civil War overwhelmingly thought they were fighting about slavery, and that we should take their word for it."

    "In this unprecedented account, Chandra Manning uses letters, diaries, and regimental newspapers to take the reader inside the minds of Civil War soldiers-black and white, Northern and Southern-as they fought and marched across a divided country. With stunning poise and narrative verve, Manning explores how the Union and Confederate soldiers came to identify slavery as the central issue of the war and what that meant for a tumultuous nation. This is a brilliant and eye-opening debut and an invaluable addition to our understanding of the Civil War as it has never been rendered before."

    http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo...andra-manning/

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...l_War_Was_Over

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...roubled-refuge"



    "State-by-state figures show some variation. In Mississippi, 49 percent of families owned slaves, and in South Carolina, 46 percent did. In border states, the percentage was lower -- 3 percent in Delaware and 12 percent in Maryland. The median for slaveholding states was about 27 percent."

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/24/viral-image/viral-post-gets-it-wrong-extent-slavery-1860/




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    Of course it could. Its already been in motion since the end of WW2. People have became accostemed to devoting every waking hour to get up at daylight and hop in a tin box with tires. Sadly, many of them work for peanuts. Not everyone has the intellect for college. Most of them arent from privilage so they are not well connected to overcome anything really. If someone tries to hold the line on pay some other desperate soul will work for less. It saddens me. I am very bothered when there is duress from am honest angle, not a false narrative. Slavery..? Almost
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    Well the short answer is NO! Not in the form of what the past was.

    But how about a class of people that are not owned by a person, but are really owned by the government?

    Let's take a closer look at what is currently happening. Why must Christopher Columbus Statues come down? Why do we need to take down all of the founding fathers Why must anything that has do do with the civil war be removed from the public areas of the country?

    Why is it that Sports teams have to change their names, Highschool's need new mascots, even some businesses and products Uncle Ben's Aunt Jemima

    What do all of these have in common! They might be offensive to someone?

    But more importantly, they are paths to the real history of our nation. Now has everything in our past in this country been good or even right? NO.

    Let's just take a look at a few thing's Slavery. The USA was the only country in the world to have Slaves right????? Wrong! In 1834 Britain Abolished The importation of Slaves and Slavery in some parts of the country. But expanded it's slave trade to other parts of he empire India started to regulate and abolish Slavery in 1843, Did Africa have slavery? YES and it was not abolished until 1865 and only then because of the USA civil war. And on the Asian continent it was 1906 before laws abolishing slavery were enacted. WOW slavery was all over the world. Not just in the USA

    But History must be forgotten, and one must ask why.

    Well lets look at what is happening in the USA, National Debt will likely hit 30 Trillion this year, and experts believe that the tipping point was around 26 trillion. Services to the public are going to have to be cut.

    Riots are happening in the streets of the USA, Liberal officials that support socialism are telling the people that we need to defund the police and you guessed it, enact strict gun laws. Which is the only thing that is keeping the left from following the rest of the socialist countries and forcing socialism on the people

    So what will happen when the money runs out in our poor and minority communities.... Well they will be given a task or jobs to do and in return they will get money??? NO they will receive food and housing! They will at first work in their own neighborhoods but then the government will charge those that can afford it and these people will start to preform tasks for the wealthier sector of the population.

    What would you call it if the government forced you to work for the wealthy and you receive lodging and food but no money?

    But the memory of what slavery was will be gone from the public eye and from the history book only to be rewritten by the liberal politicians that enact the compassionate polices, that bring about what they have wanted since they lost the civil war

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    It is kinda funny how words such as 'liberal' come to control understanding for some. Above, a bunch of words that really made little sense to inform us in the mind of the writer that 'liberals' lost the Civil War. They did? Who knew. American education where did you go? Notes on Civil war below, as for the premise that slavery will return, no chance, owning humans isn't gonna happen, but there is corporate and business and their controls without unions and representation that could be a interesting topic to examine. "Her conclusion is that the Americans who fought the Civil War overwhelmingly thought they were fighting about slavery, and that we should take their word for it." "In this unprecedented account, Chandra Manning uses letters, diaries, and regimental newspapers to take the reader inside the minds of Civil War soldiers-black and white, Northern and Southern-as they fought and marched across a divided country. With stunning poise and narrative verve, Manning explores how the Union and Confederate soldiers came to identify slavery as the central issue of the war and what that meant for a tumultuous nation. This is a brilliant and eye-opening debut and an invaluable addition to our understanding of the Civil War as it has never been rendered before." http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo...andra-manning/ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...l_War_Was_Over https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...roubled-refuge" "State-by-state figures show some variation. In Mississippi, 49 percent of families owned slaves, and in South Carolina, 46 percent did. In border states, the percentage was lower -- 3 percent in Delaware and 12 percent in Maryland. The median for slaveholding states was about 27 percent." http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-slavery-1860/ If you can cut the people off from their history, then they can be easily persuaded." Karl Marx
    "...but there is corporate and business and their controls without unions and representation that could be a interesting topic to examine..."


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    I think that it would have been pretty sweet to have lived in ancient times and to have been able to go down to the slave market and purchase a nice young slave really. And have been able to legally do whatever you want with her. I guess we do have businesses like SugarDaddy.com now though and the pandemic is going to make it rain Sugar Babies. I cant afford one but Im happy for people that can and Im glad to live in a world where I do have the opportunity to own a Sugar Baby if things go my way. It would have been nicer to actually be able to buy a slave from the slave market at during Roman Republic though right? Imagine it. I will take one of those nice educated Greek girls.. ummm give me a couple of those hot young French Gaul chicks... throw in a Carthaginian. I guess if you are a billionaire right now the Sugar Babies that would be available to you would be better now than what was offer in ancient Rome or whatever. More variety. Whole world to draw from now. But still. To actually legally own the slave. That would have been pretty awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    It is kinda funny how words such as 'liberal' come to control understanding for some. Above, a bunch of words that really made little sense to inform us in the mind of the writer that 'liberals' lost the Civil War. They did? Who knew. American education where did you go?


    Notes on Civil war below, as for the premise that slavery will return, no chance, owning humans isn't gonna happen, but there is corporate and business and their controls without unions and representation that could be a interesting topic to examine.

    "Her conclusion is that the Americans who fought the Civil War overwhelmingly thought they were fighting about slavery, and that we should take their word for it."

    "In this unprecedented account, Chandra Manning uses letters, diaries, and regimental newspapers to take the reader inside the minds of Civil War soldiers-black and white, Northern and Southern-as they fought and marched across a divided country. With stunning poise and narrative verve, Manning explores how the Union and Confederate soldiers came to identify slavery as the central issue of the war and what that meant for a tumultuous nation. This is a brilliant and eye-opening debut and an invaluable addition to our understanding of the Civil War as it has never been rendered before."

    http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo...andra-manning/

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...l_War_Was_Over

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...roubled-refuge"



    "State-by-state figures show some variation. In Mississippi, 49 percent of families owned slaves, and in South Carolina, 46 percent did. In border states, the percentage was lower -- 3 percent in Delaware and 12 percent in Maryland. The median for slaveholding states was about 27 percent."

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/24/viral-image/viral-post-gets-it-wrong-extent-slavery-1860/




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    Well, if liberals won the civil war then it only stands to reason that liberals will win this war as well and since this is not a shooting war and liberals are much smarter than the right, we should be saying that the hand writing is on the wall.

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    Barring some sort of apocalyptic event, a nuclear war, bio-war in the form of a virus that wipes out a majority of the population, or some other catastrophe -- NO -- we will not see slavery again in the US.

    Slavery is something that exists only when human rights are not recognized.

    Now, poor people and minorities could very well decide to work for room and board -- by their own choice, but that's not slavery.

    People should remember that slavery was rampant throughout history in virtually all societies. The US was far from the only country where it happened, and it happened here for a far shorter time than it happened in many other places.

    Slavery is a blight on our history, to be sure, but our history contains so many other wonderful and incredible events that far outweigh the history of slavery here.

    No one today is alive who was a slave and no one is alive who owned a slave. For me, it's a bit of history, but nothing worth dwelling on in today's world. I'd rather think about all the amazing things our Founders achieved and focus on those. So what if they owned slaves? It was a thing back then and we cannot judge them through today's modern lens. Those who try are foolish. Their owning of slaves does not negate their notable contributions to this amazing nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Well, if liberals won the civil war then it only stands to reason that liberals will win this war as well and since this is not a shooting war and liberals are much smarter than the right, we should be saying that the hand writing is on the wall.

    Now, you're just making me chuckle. Neither "liberals" nor "the right" have any collective intellect. Only individuals do.

    Making that statement does not speak highly of yours, my friend. Silly.
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