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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    We seem to be missing several of our resident leftist. Where is Safety, Exotix, Common Sense?
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    Maybe programs specific to English lit are different, (particularly if there is some kind of creative writing aspect), but trust me, undergraduates generally do not get docked very much for not being able to spell or form proper sentences. This is/was a pet peeve of mine.

    Say I had a major final worth 40% of the final grade. The rubric would break down the expectations for each portion, and "formatting, grammar and spelling" would generally be worth less than 5% of that final grade. Even if the prof cannot make sense of the paper, they have to find a way of seeing if the rest of the paper meets the rubric guidelines. In theory, you could just submit random words or a stream of consciousness and still get a 95% if you managed to hit the major points.

    This really pissed me off for a while, but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Maybe programs specific to English lit are different, (particularly if there is some kind of creative writing aspect), but trust me, undergraduates generally do not get docked very much for not being able to spell or form proper sentences. This is/was a pet peeve of mine.

    Say I had a major final worth 40% of the final grade. The rubric would break down the expectations for each portion, and "formatting, grammar and spelling" would generally be worth less than 5% of that final grade. Even if the prof cannot make sense of the paper, they have to find a way of seeing if the rest of the paper meets the rubric guidelines. In theory, you could just submit random words or a stream of consciousness and still get a 95% if you managed to hit the major points.

    This really pissed me off for a while, but whatever.
    Seriously? And we wonder why some people use abbreviations such as U R or slaughter the spelling of basic words. So auto-correct doesn't apparently work for some people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Maybe programs specific to English lit are different, (particularly if there is some kind of creative writing aspect), but trust me, undergraduates generally do not get docked very much for not being able to spell or form proper sentences. This is/was a pet peeve of mine.

    Say I had a major final worth 40% of the final grade. The rubric would break down the expectations for each portion, and "formatting, grammar and spelling" would generally be worth less than 5% of that final grade. Even if the prof cannot make sense of the paper, they have to find a way of seeing if the rest of the paper meets the rubric guidelines. In theory, you could just submit random words or a stream of consciousness and still get a 95% if you managed to hit the major points.

    This really pissed me off for a while, but whatever.

    When I went to university, long ago, things were different. English classes were dreaded because if you didn't write in proper English you failed.

    I forget how I ended up in a Philosophy Dept program that offered tutoring in Engish to undergrads. We got a lot of Chicago innercity kids and to most of them it was a matter of pride to write the way they talked in the 'hood. I'd explain that's fine, for there, but here, you want to pass, eventually graduate, get a decent job, make money, raise a family better than you were, well, then you just have to learn this other language. Surprisingly a lot of them got it and tried and learned. Nowadays there's be great resistance to what I did.
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    There has been more radical change in the past 5 years than any short time period before that. Lol at what this country has devolved into

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    It took time for postmodernism to work its way out from philosophy departments and into education and psychology and nowadays even math ans science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collateral Damage View Post
    Seriously? And we wonder why some people use abbreviations such as U R or slaughter the spelling of basic words. So auto-correct doesn't apparently work for some people?
    Yeah. I would send you copies of the rubrics I still have but it would violate my own privacy.

    I'm not a grammar nazi or something, but it feels like it should be worth more. It is probably the most applicable skill for a lot of college and university graduates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Yeah. I would send you copies of the rubrics I still have but it would violate my own privacy.
    I'm not a grammar nazi or something, but it feels like it should be worth more. It is probably the most applicable skill for a lot of college and university graduates.
    Everything in this world is based on communication, be it English, French, Italian, or any other language. Math, written words, verbal words. Without a standard, there will be miscommunication.

    Imagine the chaos....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Even most masochists will eventually tire of beating their head against a brick wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    Maybe programs specific to English lit are different, (particularly if there is some kind of creative writing aspect), but trust me, undergraduates generally do not get docked very much for not being able to spell or form proper sentences. This is/was a pet peeve of mine.

    Say I had a major final worth 40% of the final grade. The rubric would break down the expectations for each portion, and "formatting, grammar and spelling" would generally be worth less than 5% of that final grade. Even if the prof cannot make sense of the paper, they have to find a way of seeing if the rest of the paper meets the rubric guidelines. In theory, you could just submit random words or a stream of consciousness and still get a 95% if you managed to hit the major points.

    This really pissed me off for a while, but whatever.
    My English 101 class certainly wasn't like that. That woman (although she looked like a girl) taught me to write. (I so wanted to use right instead).
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