Leftists Fail To Condemn Violence

[zelmo1234]

Breitbart News is a far-right American news, opinion, and commentary website. Some sources describe it as a conservative news outlet or as part of the alt-right. Its consistently conservative editorial positions overlap with the ideological positions of far-right European political parties.

OK so lets say that Breitbart is the most conservative outlet in the world. And they NEVER have anything or anyone that is not far right in any of their articles.

How does that make the fact that Democrats refuse to condemn the violence that is happening in the cities across the USA not a true statement?

They seem to be very happy with the people in these cities that have torn them apart and burned them to the ground. It is easy to see that they did not even want federal troops to come in and prevent the burning and destruction of a federal court house.

You see it matters not that the source is a conservative source, because the statement is True.

And that means that you are supporting people that don't care that people in Portland, Minneapolis, Tulsa, Oakland, Seattle, and many other cities across this nation are have their businesses destroyed and robbed, people are being raped, Children are being murdered as well as adults, complete areas of these cities have been destroyed.

And there has not been one word from the democrats to condemn it, nor any actions taken to try and help the law abiding citizens in these areas.

That is the party and the people that YOU support.

[zelmo1234]

Lying about the opposition only hurts one's credibility; believing those lies only demonstrates terminal confirmation bias. If the less cognitively challenged conservatives would stick to the issues and leave the hyperbole and silly vilification to the fringe, they'd be advancing their causes tremendously and perhaps even making some converts.

YES!

I agree that lying only hurts.

So here is your chance to set things straight.

Can you show us all on the forum, all of the actions that the democrat's have taken across the country to stop the riots and lawlessness in the cities that are being destroyed.

Can you show us where these Left Wing politicians have stood up to those that would destroy American History, have taken over public and private Businesses and Places of Work

Prove to us that Democrats are going to do something to take back the streets in the cities where the law-abiding citizens are being terrorizes.

I can promise you that I will never have been so glad to be wrong.

But just because you say lying is bad, does not mean that they are lying. I do not see any of the Democrats taking a stand against the violence in these areas. What I see is them supporting those that are terrorizing the people of these cities and then blaming those law-abiding citizens for it happening

[zelmo1234]

I often opt to not post in threads related to the protests because there seem to be two very different characterizations circulating about them which both seem extreme. Violence is wrong and I do not condone it, and I also think that peaceful protests are a legitimate and important right within a free country. An individual can hold both of those views simultaneously. But I am not in Portland, among other places, to know what sources to trust and which not to. I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle but I feel no need to argue ad nauseum with individuals who only believe in an extreme version of the story.

I do not disagree that peaceful protests are part of what makes this country great.

But you can't deny that the politicians in these cities are not doing anything to stop the violence and terror tactics that are happening in their cities and states. It is simply a fact. They have told the police to stand down. And there are large areas in these cities that have just been destroyed.

You also can't deny that the Mayors and Governors have already asked the federal government for funds to rebuild these areas that they have allowed to be destroyed, and they are wanting the nation to pay for something that they should never have let happen.

You can't deny that they are trying to take money away from the police and funnel it to social causes that will in large part donate it back to the DNC.

You don't have to be on the extreme to acknowledge what is happening.

[zelmo1234]

Too bad - you said it and now you're stuck with it. You KNOW you support the rioters and looters, A! Why do you continue to deny it? Bad, bad Socialist Nazi!

Just as you know that not one Democrat is going to stand up to the people in these cities that are bring the violence to the people. They are going to have to deploy federal troops in all of them so the people can actually go and vote in the election as the thugs will be trying to prevent that from happening.

It is the left, and not the right in this case that is supporting people that are openly anti American and are clearly breaking laws and terrorizing the law-abiding citizens of these cities.

They just are, can you prove me wrong. I hope that you can.

[zelmo1234]

Not one liberal on this forum has suggested that they condone violence and the wanton destruction of property. Not one. Yet you persist in this false narrative that all liberals support mayhem when only a minority of the extreme left have such beliefs and inclinations. Liberals are not going to apologize for the actions of the extreme left anymore than conservatives are going to apologize for the actions of the extreme right.

Adelaide never said that her position was somewhere in the middle, she said that the truth regarding the incidents in Portland is likely somewhere in the middle - that is to say, somewhere between the "facts" as presented by the right media and the "facts" as presented by the left media.

Inasmuch as a number of politicians have been discussing defunding police, thus far no defunding has taken place. If police organizations are conducting a protest of their own and that is resulting in an increase in crime, then look at them. They are still being paid to do a job. Let's also not forget that this is summer and there is always an escalation in gang violence in the summer. With Covid 19 there has been an increase in calls for domestic violence - there has likely been an increase in domestic homicides. As I theorized some time ago, Covid 19 likely reduced the market for drugs and therefore increased competition for the remaining buyers. Competition in gang circles generally involves killing competitors. This is all in the context of ongoing and increasingly violent gang wars. As of 2017 Gun homicides were already up 30% since 2014. 2020 may be a perfect storm for homicide.

You are correct you are not openly condoning the violence.

Some of the Mayor's are as they have come down and marched in the streets with those that have been tearing their cities apart.

However, Actions speak louder than words and You all are not calling for the politicians that are doing nothing to put and end to the occupation of large areas of their cities and the terrorism that is going on within those areas.

You just are not doing it because the left needs this to try and take back the White House.

As for the Right. What law breaking are we not condemning. And please don't say Russia and Trump, because that is BS and nearly everyone can see that now.

As for Defunding the police

https://www.foxnews.com/us/police-de...et-cuts-defund

Want to guess what party is in charge in these cities?

Facts are a $#@! and in this case you can't argue the facts so you have to try and say Well we don't support the people being murdered in these cities, we are just not going to do anything to stop it.

And that is where the democrats find themselves

[zelmo1234]

Which Leftist has declared "The ends justify the means." as a motto? That's a lie.

The supporters of scientific socialism actually condemn such violence; such violence and not any kind of violence. because its unorganized, petty work and hopeless. As Lenin said, our solution is not "hackneyed, philistine, petty-bourgeois moralising" but "turning from aimless, senseless, sporadic acts of violence to purposeful, mass violence, linked with the broad movement and the sharpening of the direct proletarian struggle" (The Assessment of the Russian Revolution, Mar 10(23), 1908).

You are correct Lenin hated violence???

Lenin killed 4 million people - men, women and little children. He is the 5th greatest murderer of the 20th century (after Stalin, Mao, Hitler and Chiang Kai-shek). He is the 5th greatest murderer of the 20th century (after Stalin, Mao, Hitler and Chiang Kai-shek

The Prosecution will rest

[jet57]

So what. Deal with it.

So it's a discredited propaganda outlet. Go ahead and read it, but don't expect anybody to take it seriously.

[jet57]

Same could be said for leftists. They lie all the time.

Show us: use credible sources to do it.

[jet57]

I don't think anyone ever said peaceful protests are wrong.

However we have an abundance of video evidence of extreme violence, unless of course it is all CG. lol

There is also an abundance of evidence of millions marching peacefully, but you don't post that.

[jet57]

This is another example of not addressing the post! When will people learn?

WE ALL KNOW WHO BRIETBART IS! We don't need a lesson from you on the most common pure conservative news source in America.

Care to have a real discussion? BTW if you were as smart as you like to think your post is you would know Brietbart is not "alt right" or "far right". They are simply conservative. You try to imply this because you have no argument on the actual subject. When Standing W slides in and likes it then you know it was pointless.

Do you have any actual comments on the subject matter? That might be interesting.

Breitbart is a far right-wing propaganda rag that cannot be taken seriously by any stretch of the imagination. Therefore ANY thesis that is backed up by Breitbart cannot be taken seriously. That is the point.