Rape scenes in movies and tv shows

[IMPress Polly]

There is a reason why forcible rape results in such lengthy prison sentences.

What lengthy prison sentences? They're all out and free again within six months, assuming they even got charged and convicted in the first place!

Sorry, my cynicism is showing. I agree with the spirit of your post.

[TheOneOnly2]

Thank you for the only human contribution to this thread!

From 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women's rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. The actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them.

I think its kind of harsh to say that most women are not normal just because they have a rape fantasy about once a month. Not human?

The DSM themselves say that its fine to have fantasies as long as they are not acted upon. Its normal.

[TheOneOnly2]

I wholeheartedly agree. I've stayed away from this thread b/c I've found it distasteful and disgusting. I saw Polly's name as having chimed in so I looked at her post b/c I figured I knew what her response would be. The entire subject of it being "normal" or exciting or worth watching is totally without any socially redeeming value.

raphilia (previously known as sexual perversion and sexual deviation^[1]) is the experience of intense sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviors, or individuals.^[2][3]
No consensus has been found for any precise border between unusual sexual interests and paraphilic ones.^[4][5] There is debate over which, if any, of the paraphilias should be listed in diagnostic manuals, such as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) or the International Classification of Diseases (ICD).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

The DSM is the authority on this not you. How can we say that rape fantasies are not normal when the majority of females are having them at least once a month? How can the majority be deviant. They cant be and to suggest that they are is outrageous.

[TheOneOnly2]

Dsm.

[Captdon]

Well do you think that rape scenes can ever be funny in any way? What did you think of that Lucas/Spielberg South Park episode for example?

Rape is never funny. Not ever. You seem to be trying to prove something disgusting here. You need to take a good hard look at your post.

[Captdon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

The DSM is the authority on this not you. How can we say that rape fantasies are not normal when the majority of females are having them at least once a month? How can the majority be deviant. They cant be and to suggest that they are is outrageous.

I don't know what you're getting out of this but I will tell you that you are seriously ill. Only a deviant would believe this nonsense.

I'm going to leave now. My keyboard feels filthy.

[Lummy]

My keyboard is filthy. Something seems to be growing on it ... green and black and smells like moldy meat or something.


Tastes okay though.

[Standing Wolf]

My keyboard is filthy. Something seems to be growing on it ... green and black and smells like moldy meat or something.


Tastes okay though.

Captain Obvious...is that you?

[Lummy]

No. I don't know what happened to that guy. I had forgotten about him.

[Adelaide]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

The DSM is the authority on this not you. How can we say that rape fantasies are not normal when the majority of females are having them at least once a month? How can the majority be deviant. They cant be and to suggest that they are is outrageous.

Paraphilias are diagnosable and sexual interests are not. You are undermining your own argument.

I think that there are a few fundamental issues with this discussion. First, women do fantasize about giving up control or "submitting" sexually (and so do men) but we need to be conscious about how we're having that discussion (and why) because they are ultimately consenting if they partake. It also tends to be about intimacy and trust rather than desiring the results of a sexual assault because it would be taking place within a controlled, intimate relationship. Fantasies are also not the same as actions; someone might fantasize about their boss or about car sex or whatever and then they don't follow through because it's a fantasy. Also, consensual sex is not going to have the same physical evidence as a sexual assault so something that comes to my mind is the predator who will claim "But she likes it rough" as their defense.

Consensual sex and non-consensual assault are different; fantasies rarely become actions; let's not add to rape culture by "normalizing" it through the idea that "rape fantasies" are a thing - no, "control/trust" fantasies are.

If someone were fantasizing about actual rape, I think there is likely a psychological problem whether it is diagnosable or not (and would probably assume there is a history of trauma or neglect). That could result in very risky behavior where an actual sexual assault could occur (because it's not as much 'fun' as it looks on television).