What about Super Rich and Famous Privlege?

[Cotton1]

Definitely -- an Aspie is an Aspie!

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood"

[donttread]

On money that he has already paid Taxes on!

Remember he is living on investments Capital Gains is the only thing that he is paying now.

This was years ago when he ran for Pres. I think he made 46 mill that year. The real issue is that if they removed most loopholes they could lower the brackets, not tax people making a few hundred thousand a year at the same rate as those making tens of millions and actually tax people at the prescribed rate. They also use tax loopholes to gather votes and control behavior usually for monetary or political gain for themselves. For example why reward home onwership or having numerous children through taxes? I like EIC in that it is specifically for the working poor but does it belong in the tax code?

[donttread]

Mitt pays more in taxes in one year than you pay in your life. And you demand Mitt pay more?

What I'd like to demand is that he and others pay the rate of their tax bracket. That's all. Ditch the loopholes, LOWER the brackets, down size the IRS and take tax code off the congressional for sale list. I'd add that as long as we keep the progressive tax system Mitt should be in a higher bracket than the couple knocking down 500,000 actually showing up to work and I'm not sure that's the current state of affairs. Don't worry, Mitt's bracket would probably have a lower tax rate without loopholes than it does now, he'd just have to pay what the bracket says.

[donttread]

It would not hurt them to pay more.

All people need food, shelter, and medical care.

People with Disability need medical care more then others.

There is no doubt that we have unisured people, homeless and hungry. The question is why? Now this may seem like a simple question but it is not. For example many of the homeless qualify for benefits but can't or aren't willing to jump through the necessary hoops. Addiction can eat up cash including grocery and rent money. for others. Housing cost are out of the world in many places and state job placement is not exactly known for their effectiveness.
To expand on that point I think many people see a Paris Hilton, an heiress, and a homeless person in the same city and think how the hell can this be in America with our wealth and help your neighbor attitude? I know it's aquestion I often ask myself. It does not help that services are administered by government in ways that are notoriuosly ineffieicent. For example when the lockdown's started NYS Department of Labor did not not a que for callers to leave a call back number and by the time they did things were out of control with people unable to get through for weeks. Then aid becomes apolitical isssue which is understandablly a hot button iossue for many.
So now we have a very complicated issue!

1) Politics outweighs practicality which makes program evaluation tricky. Are we measuring in terms of benefits paid, cost of admin, people who are able to reduce or leave benefits?
2) Feds not letting the states deal with this on their own adding layers to the problem and cost
3) A general government inability to streamline anything and drive up the cost of everything, even helping people!
4) In some communities social services adds a lot of jobs and is seen as an employer locally. A good one. I suspect the cost of running the programs eats up much of what be the benefits.
5) Program reach and outreach.

There are more factors but you get the idea. It's a minefield to distribute benefits complete with multiple layers of government, politics and public opinion ofter based upon wrong information. So matching the people in need with the right program can be slow and uncertain. How can we better solve this?

[MMC]

There is no doubt that we have unisured people, homeless and hungry. The question is why? Now this may seem like a simple question but it is not. For example many of the homeless qualify for benefits but can't or aren't willing to jump through the necessary hoops. Addiction can eat up cash including grocery and rent money. for others. Housing cost are out of the world in many places and state job placement is not exactly known for their effectiveness.
To expand on that point I think many people see a Paris Hilton, an heiress, and a homeless person in the same city and think how the hell can this be in America with our wealth and help your neighbor attitude? I know it's aquestion I often ask myself. It does not help that services are administered by government in ways that are notoriuosly ineffieicent. For example when the lockdown's started NYS Department of Labor did not not a que for callers to leave a call back number and by the time they did things were out of control with people unable to get through for weeks. Then aid becomes apolitical isssue which is understandablly a hot button iossue for many.
So now we have a very complicated issue!

1) Politics outweighs practicality which makes program evaluation tricky. Are we measuring in terms of benefits paid, cost of admin, people who are able to reduce or leave benefits?
2) Feds not letting the states deal with this on their own adding layers to the problem and cost
3) A general government inability to streamline anything and drive up the cost of everything, even helping people!
4) In some communities social services adds a lot of jobs and is seen as an employer locally. A good one. I suspect the cost of running the programs eats up much of what be the benefits.
5) Program reach and outreach.

There are more factors but you get the idea. It's a minefield to distribute benefits complete with multiple layers of government, politics and public opinion ofter based upon wrong information. So matching the people in need with the right program can be slow and uncertain. How can we better solve this?

Well see once you get Rid of Leftists in Politics and as experts of anything. Then there is more facts and truth put out there. Then you wont have those that are always fudging numbers.


Lets start there. Oh and as to getting rid of them. All options are on the table.

[donttread]

Well see once you get Rid of Leftists in Politics and as experts of anything. Then there is more facts and truth put out there. Then you wont have those that are always fudging numbers.


Lets start there. Oh and as to getting rid of them. All options are on the table.

I don't think it should be agoal to get rid of them although this may sound tempting. In fact we all know that the word left or right don't really define anything very well. Simply get our own message out and let it go head to head with ideas like "destroying your own neighborhood and looting for personal gain are ok" Find a way to get equal time and reason will appeal to the 5-10% for whom anything besides "D" or "R" matters
As for social programing this is where many cons give the appearance of being uncaring. Sweden has robust Capitalism and saftey nets and programs. IMO, one of the best things cons ( another non defining term) can do is develop their own plan and IMO this should be administered at the state level. This is the right thing to do, the right level to do it at and a good political move.

[MMC]

I don't think it should be agoal to get rid of them although this may sound tempting. In fact we all know that the word left or right don't really define anything very well. Simply get our own message out and let it go head to head with ideas like "destroying your own neighborhood and looting for personal gain are ok" Find a way to get equal time and reason will appeal to the 5-10% for whom anything besides "D" or "R" matters
As for social programing this is where many cons give the appearance of being uncaring. Sweden has robust Capitalism and saftey nets and programs. IMO, one of the best things cons ( another non defining term) can do is develop their own plan and IMO this should be administered at the state level. This is the right thing to do, the right level to do it at and a good political move.

Getting Leftist out of the Media. Then there just might be way to get equal time.

[bulletbob]

In my opinion, all millionaires and billionaires should pay high taxes.

All people need food, shelter, and medical care.

They already pay higher taxes . there are less then 3000 billionaires in the world . the majority of taxes are already paid mostly by our top 10 or 15 percent income bracket .
You can only tax people so much before the incentive to work and make more money is squashed

[donttread]

When my grandmother was alive I had at least a purpose in life -- I helped my grandmother. Earlier, my grandmother was my Primary Parent. My parents helped both of us.

Now I live a purposeless life. Arguing online and exchanging insults on Twitter is a way to waste time but not a purpose.

Find a purpose. Have you started your group?

[donttread]

Social Media Addiction is much better then substance addiction.

True but all addiction cost us.