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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The "intelligence community" is full of liars. How dumb do you have to be to believe anything coming out of that cesspool?
    note that he included all 53 (or was that 118) intelligence agencies..........since they all agree to it.
    Now, what I'm wondering is where this statement actually originated from. Which low-level janitor from whatever agency, released this "news?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Every country in the world has a preferred outcome for the U.S. election. A few are willing to voice that preference. Some are willing to exert transparent political pressure. There is only one that we know who has dedicated significant effort (and still is) to misinformation, subterfuge, illegal hacking and God-knows-what-else in order to influence the result in Trump’s favor.

    *The latest intelligence press release confirms that Russia is currently working to get Trump elected in November*.

    But the report makes an effort to minimize that embarrassing news by tossing it in with the unworthy and unsurprising assertion that China prefers a Trump loss and that Iran “seeks” to undermine Trump. It’s kinda like buying gum and shampoo that you don’t need together with condoms. But it turns out, there is nothing substantial brought up about Iran or China. China is just using acceptable political/diplomatic channels. And no specific actions by Iran are given. These two additional useless assessments were just thrown in there to avoid inevitable backlash from Trump if they did not attempt to soften their report. Unfortunately Trumpism has politicized intelligence.

    Why does Russia need Trump to win so badly that they are actually attacking the election again?
    Educated people know that Russia (and the Soviets) have attacked US elections for the last 90 years.
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    Who cares what a Beta boy thinks?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    here is what I think of Trump and "his" sanctions

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions/trump-administration-holds-off-on-new-russia-sanctions-despite-law-idUSKBN1FI2V7
    Trump, who wanted warmer ties with Moscow and had opposed the legislation as it worked its way through Congress, signed it reluctantly in August, just six months into his presidency.Trump, who wanted warmer ties with Moscow and had opposed the legislation as it worked its way through Congress, signed it reluctantly in August, just six months into his presidency.


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions/defying-trump-u-s-senate-advances-measure-critical-of-easing-russia-sanctions-idUSKCN1P921A
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Republican-led U.S. Senate voted on Tuesday to advance a resolution disapproving of a Trump administration plan to ease sanctions on Russian companies tied to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, clearing the way for debate and a vote on the plan.


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-administration-battles-new-sanctions-on-russia
    The Trump administration is quietly fighting a new package of sanctions on Russia, The Daily Beast has learned. A Trump State Department official sent a 22-page letter to a top Senate chairman on Tuesday making a wide-ranging case against a new sanctions bill.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-democrats-press-inspectors-general-to-probe-trumps-resistance-to-russia-sanctions/2018/05/18/457b708c-5ada-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html
    Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) is one of three Senate Democrats who asked the inspectors general of three federal agencies to launch probes into why President Trump has not fully implemented congressionally mandated sanctions against Russia. (Julio Cortez/AP)






    I think you might be referring to the recent move by Saudi Arabia to flood the market and dramatically drop the price of oil, in order to punish other oil producing nations for not complying with their price demands.



    He has given Russia everything they wanted in Europe


    He hasn't been bad to them. see my links above. He called Putin 8 times this year. Do you think taxpayers should be forced to pay long distance so they can play the "no, you hang up first!" "No, you!" game?


    Are you saying you dont believe our intelligence agencies assessment from just yesterday saying that russia wants Trump elected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Every country in the world has a preferred outcome for the U.S. election. A few are willing to voice that preference. Some are willing to exert transparent political pressure. There is only one that we know who has dedicated significant effort (and still is) to misinformation, subterfuge, illegal hacking and God-knows-what-else in order to influence the result in Trump’s favor.

    *The latest intelligence press release confirms that Russia is currently working to get Trump elected in November*.

    But the report makes an effort to minimize that embarrassing news by tossing it in with the unworthy and unsurprising assertion that China prefers a Trump loss and that Iran “seeks” to undermine Trump. It’s kinda like buying gum and shampoo that you don’t need together with condoms. But it turns out, there is nothing substantial brought up about Iran or China. China is just using acceptable political/diplomatic channels. And no specific actions by Iran are given. These two additional useless assessments were just thrown in there to avoid inevitable backlash from Trump if they did not attempt to soften their report. Unfortunately Trumpism has politicized intelligence.

    Why does Russia need Trump to win so badly that they are actually attacking the election again?
    So, you believe the IC's assessment concerning possible Russian meddling, but discount the same IC's assessment of CCP and Iran's possible meddling.

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    I am Jewish, but as a former Soviet citizen, I am proud of Russia. Trump is better then Totalitarian Left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    ^^insane, absolutely, and total bull $#@!.^^
    an obscure source says......and you gobble it up as Biblical Prophecy. Beware of false prophets
    Obscure source???
    This was an official press release from the DNI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    note that he included all 53 (or was that 118) intelligence agencies..........since they all agree to it.
    Now, what I'm wondering is where this statement actually originated from. Which low-level janitor from whatever agency, released this "news?"
    lol


    This is an official press release from the office of the director of national intelligence


    “Just say the election was corrupt and leave the
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    Speaking to the Justice Department on Dec. 27, 2020. Conversation memorialized in then-acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue’s contemporaneous notes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Obscure source???
    This was an official press release from the DNI.

    uh huh...listen, I wouldn't believe anything you say or did.
    Prove that it was the accurate release, its code number, and the name of the person making that claim and not some random rogue acency.
    I want the entire list of those agencies and their department heads.
    The head of all of them is DHS........it didn't come from them, then it is falsified or compilation of previous concerns.
    You've been touting Russia since Trump got elected and have been wrong on every count. The same people who fed you this crap the first time are pumping your head full of it again. AS of today, there's no room left in you rhead for anything except
    I HATE TRUMP.....
    Your life is small with so little to occupy your time with anything else except "I hate Trump."
    While you're in here screaming about Trump, I'll be power washing teh house, then spending a little time with the trains.
    This week while you crying and stomping your feet about Trump, I'll be back to work, mixed in with dog training time, still washing the house, and taking a couple of afternoons off for fishing.
    And you'll be just as miserable then, as you are today. Enjoy your misery because I'll be enjoying it too
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Obscure source???
    This was an official press release from the DNI.
    First assessment was China which you dismiss due to severe TDS.
    When Donald Trump said to protest “peacefully”, he meant violence.

    When he told protesters to “go home”, he meant stay for an insurrection.

    And when he told Brad Raffensperger to implement “whatever the correct legal remedy is”, he meant fraud.

    War is peace.

    Freedom is slavery.

    Ignorance is strength.

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