A Forumeer Says that Hitler was Far Right

[stephenpe]

Liberals today are pieces of filth, vermin belched straight from Satan’s bowels, They cannot be dealt with, they must be destroyed, utterly.
They have polluted the minds of our children with homosexual and transgender filth and perversion. They have destroyed every institution they have come into contact with from football to the boy scouts to even small churches… They are burning cities and destroying art, they are murdering police and destroying the lives of all who dare disagree with them. They have imposed fascist edicts on us the violate our constitutional rights. They tried to overthrow the government with a faux impeachment.
There is no difference between then and now. The Leftwing mobs are the evil in America which must be eradicated. No more deals. No more compromises. No more shaking hands across the aisle.

now just substitute jew for liberal or leftwing and we have who the OP was discussing from the beginning.........

[Chris]

Stalin was a totalitarian capitalist. What does that even mean?

No point arguing after that gibberish.

[Chris]

Actually misattributed: We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.
This misattribution is sourced from John Toland. In Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976), it is attributed to Hitler in a speech of May 1, 1927. It is recorded in Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future by Gregor Strasser on June 15, 1926.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler


But easy to see why because Nazism was anti-capitalist. Anti-liberal, anti-democracy, anti-everything-modern-West, just like the communists.

[CrusaderKnight]

Actually misattributed: We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.
This misattribution is sourced from John Toland. In Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976), it is attributed to Hitler in a speech of May 1, 1927. It is recorded in Thoughts about the Tasks of the Future by Gregor Strasser on June 15, 1926.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
But easy to see why because Nazism was anti-capitalist. Anti-liberal, anti-democracy, anti-everything-modern-West, just like the communists.

Well, how do we obtain this speech of May 1, 1927. I would like to see what he said.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Adolf_Hitler

In the Clou concert hall - Hitlers first speech in Berlin. Hitler was still banned from making public speeches in Prussia so the only legal way he could speak was to make this a private event open only to 4,000 party members[12]

"12" - https://www.spiegel.de/international...-a-866793.html

The word "socialist" appears 8 times
The word "socialism" appears 3 times

[CrusaderKnight]

"12" - https://www.spiegel.de/international...-a-866793.html

The word "socialist" appears 8 times
The word "socialism" appears 3 times

QUOTES:

In Goebbel's view, their task was the "conquest of the street." In the melting pot of Berlin, these primarily young men were supposed to reconcile and embody two previously hostile worldviews: nationalism, which Goebbels believed had to be "reshaped in a revolutionary way," and a "true socialism" free of Marxism.

The Social Democrats, Goebbels said in August 1930, were "no longer the protagonists of a true, purposeful socialism," but instead had become the "lackeys and beneficiaries of market capitalism." In fact, with its aging and corruptible politicians, the SPD made things easier for the Nazis in Berlin.

Goebbels wrote that the party was turning to "workers without work and without hope, exposed to the most horrible form of desperation," and he promised "to destroy the system of capitalism and replace it with a new, socialist order."

Horst Wessel was one of the Nazi propagandists who knew how to gain the support of workers. Born in 1907, he had graduated from a high school that emphasized the classics but dropped out of university before earning a degree. Wessel saw himself as a socialist who had been shaken by the "great social impoverishment and servitude of the working classes in all professions."

Wessel and his friends sought to establish contact with proletarians in dark back courtyards and noisy taverns, on street corners and at unemployment offices. In doing so, they adhered to the third of the "Ten Commandments for National Socialists" penned by Goebbels: "Every national comrade, even the poorest, is part of Germany. Love him as you love yourself."

Even the communists, who had initially hoped to fight off the Nazis with fists, brass knuckles and revolvers (their motto was: "Beat the fascists wherever you encounter them!"), were now courting Hitler's followers. In an appeal by the district office for Berlin-Brandenburg on Nov. 1, 1931, the KPD praised the "National Socialist workers" and "proletarian supporters of the Nazi Party," calling them "honest fighters against the system of hunger."

Goebbels promised the "right to work" and "a socialist Germany that gives bread to its children once again." This awakened the hopes of the 31.3 percent of Berlin voters who voted for the Nazi Party in the last Reichstag election of March 1933. Only those who paid close attention to what Goebbels was saying could divine where the journey was about to go under Nazi leadership.

[Chris]

Well, how do we obtain this speech of May 1, 1927. I would like to see what he said.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_Adolf_Hitler

In the Clou concert hall - Hitlers first speech in Berlin. Hitler was still banned from making public speeches in Prussia so the only legal way he could speak was to make this a private event open only to 4,000 party members[12]

"12" - https://www.spiegel.de/international...-a-866793.html

The word "socialist" appears 8 times
The word "socialism" appears 3 times

DOn't know, can't find it online.

I'm not disputing Hitler's socialism, just the one quote.

[Peter1469]

Dismissed as a spastic 'tard.

Well, let's see about that -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...re-socialists/


https://www.indy100.com/article/were...witter-7900001


So you don't have to take my word for it, there are of course many other sources that will show you how wrong you are But let's hear from the man himself:

On Marxism: Hitler says that until the age of seventeen, he had not heard the word ‘Marxism’ and later he says that Democracy of the West is the forerunner of Marxism and he equates the “Jewish press” with Marxism” and his aversion to it was intensified. He "wanted to get acquainted with this mass of knavery”. It is democracy alone he writes, “which furnishes this universal plague with the sail in which it spreads.” He writes later that the Social Democratic press was headed primarily with Jews who created Marxian products which made him curious to know the mass of knavery stated earlier here, thus he equates Marxism with Social Democracy.

That's from the pages of Mein Kampf. I started a thread on that book for analysis and discussion, but a secondary use has presented itself: to keep the ignorant from spreading far right-wing disinformation.

So Peter1469; (cough) You should be reading and studying before commenting.

[Peter1469]

The hard right will always continue to attempt to change history because they are caught so many times being on the wrong side of it.

Which part? Hitler as a proponent of free market capitalism?

[Peter1469]

No, it's your confusion again chris. They were not left and the book and my proofs show it. But if you insist, I guess you'll have to prove Hitler's own words to incorrect about how he thought on leftist, being that he locked them all up and called them the "plague of Germany"...

When you say proofs this is what it is:

[zelmo1234]

The hard right will always continue to attempt to change history because they are caught so many times being on the wrong side of it.

Would that be like the Democrats trying to say that they are not the party of slavery, and the party that fought civil rights and the party that passed and implemented programs that have made it so much harder for minorities to succeed in this county

You mean like that?

But YES he is correct the NAZI party the next step to the right of Communism... So you are correct in that, but that does not put them on the Conservative side of the Circle. They were and still are socialist.