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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    I think Australia wants to step up but there is a certain segment of the population that bows down to china like traitors and cowards , not true men that fear being took off the tit so to speak
    Are you naming names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Are you naming names?
    most of tTB's posts are about PJL......the poor fool is obsessed....(lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    That is a service center. They do not make the steel, just like CMC.
    "The LIBERTY Primary Steel Whyalla Steelworks has a production capacity of ~1.2Mtpa of steel using a Blast Furnace Steelmaking process. Approximately 65 per cent of the steel produced is transferred by rail in billet form to InfraBuild Steel's Rod Bar and Wire business for further value-added processing, and the remaining steel is converted to finished products in the form of structural steel and rails through the Whyalla Structural Mill. "...........https://www.libertygfg.com/liberty-primary-steel/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    China the main force driving your economy and why you mistakenly claim it's the world. China the reason your country is in a recession, its' first in 30 years. China the reason your deficits are blowing up. China threatening you for even suggesting an independent investigation in the virus that isn't a driving force whatsoever, this post of your flies in the face of reality itself.

    China.....with this outbreak of an epidemic.....isn't the driving force, it's the destabilizing force and why you're strengthening military ties with the US and why US military units are crawling all over Australia.

    You're in denial, PJL. And denial ain't no river in Egypt.
    What the covid19 virus has done , apart from stall most economies , is to expose the truth about globalization , and how it has devastated manufacturing in once productive Western countries . There's two ways countries can react to this . The first ( and easiest) reaction , is to blame it all on China , and continue on the same destructive path , pandering to the needs and greeds of the corporate sector , and the status quo......the second , is for countries to get off their arse , and do something about it to invigorate their manufacturing , become self sufficient and productive again, and create jobs to service their own domestic needs , and then export any excess production to countries that can't produce enough themselves . The future belongs to countries that roll their sleeves up , get off their arse , and start working for what they earn .......if the US keeps whining and whinging about China China China , they will be left without any manufacturing capacity at all , and will be more and more reliant on importing what they need from other countries, and relying on the productive capacity of other countries that have rolled up their sleeves and got back to work...........and the future will write itself without them .

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    We also denote the recent settlement between the UAE and Israel and the United States. Lines drawn against Iran and China.

    As well....

    The U.S. has seized Iranian petroleum bound for Venezuela aboard four tankers near the Strait of Hormuz, enforcing a forfeiture order aimed at both Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and the Caracas government, the Justice Department announced Friday. Roughly 1.116 million barrels of fuel was confiscated from the foreign-flagged vessels M/T Bella, M/T Bering, M/T Pandi and M/T Luna, a Justice Department statement said, adding that the seizure took place "with the assistance of foreign partners."

    The cargo was intercepted on Wednesday, under a warrant issued by a U.S. District Court over a July 2 complaint seeking the forfeiture of all petroleum products aboard the vessels. The property is now in U.S. custody, the Justice Department said.
    Trump 2020

    According to The Associated Press, quoting unnamed U.S. officials, no military force was used in the seizure of the cargo, and none of the ships was physically impounded. Instead, U.S. officials threatened ship owners, insurers and captains with sanctions to force them to hand over their cargo, the AP reported.
    So they weren't seized. Those that owned the ships, their underwriters(investors), the Captains were threatened. Yeah.....you go right ahead and deliver the oil......we'll make sure you ain't licensed to sail a paddleboard. Whoever owns the ship will no longer enjoy freedom of navigation. You investors just lost your ass, the oil 'seized' in a brilliant manner.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/08/14/90253...-for-venezuela

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    What the covid19 virus has done , apart from stall most economies , is to expose the truth about globalization , and how it has devastated manufacturing in once productive Western countries.
    PJL....the Brexit vote and then the election of Donald Trump exposed the truth about globalization and how it has devastated manufacturing, that reality and earth shattering elections pre-dated Covid. Boris Johnson's election in Britain reaffirming Brexit. Trump with deregulation and tax cuts drove manufacturing back into our economy. Record low unemployment. Stock market records. And then covid hit, we were well aware of this phenomenon of devastating global economic effects.


    There's two ways countries can react to this . The first ( and easiest) reaction , is to blame it all on China , and continue on the same destructive path , pandering to the needs and greeds of the corporate sector , and the status quo......the second , is for countries to get off their arse , and do something about it to invigorate their manufacturing , become self sufficient and productive again, and create jobs to service their own domestic needs , and then export any excess production to countries that can't produce enough themselves .
    Can we blame China for any of it, PJL? Given world wide deaths, can we blame China in the slightest? It is Australia today merely calling for an investigation into what happened, they're being strong armed for it and you know it. You don't blame China....you blame others of blaming China for it "all." I've never seen a 'what China should have done or should be doing now' while you lecture others on their response. What blame do you put, if any, on China, PJL? Take your time answering.

    The future belongs to countries that roll their sleeves up , get off their arse , and start working for what they earn .......if the US keeps whining and whinging about China China China , they will be left without any manufacturing capacity at all , and will be more and more reliant on importing what they need from other countries, and relying on the productive capacity of other countries that have rolled up their sleeves and got back to work...........and the future will write itself without them .
    you sound just like Donald J Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    PJL....the Brexit vote and then the election of Donald Trump exposed the truth about globalization and how it has devastated manufacturing, that reality and earth shattering elections pre-dated Covid. Boris Johnson's election in Britain reaffirming Brexit. Trump with deregulation and tax cuts drove manufacturing back into our economy. Record low unemployment. Stock market records. And then covid hit, we were well aware of this phenomenon of devastating global economic effects.




    Can we blame China for any of it, PJL? Given world wide deaths, can we blame China in the slightest? It is Australia today merely calling for an investigation into what happened, they're being strong armed for it and you know it. You don't blame China....you blame others of blaming China for it "all." I've never seen a 'what China should have done or should be doing now' while you lecture others on their response. What blame do you put, if any, on China, PJL? Take your time answering.



    you sound just like Donald J Trump
    Trump is a great self sales man . He has been totally geared to convince people that he's right and everyone else is wrong , practically his whole adult life...........but it's always just words Ransom - very convincing words . His biggest domestic move since gaining office has been tax relief for corporates and the wealthy........when do the people get their turn ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    Trump is a great self sales man . He has been totally geared to convince people that he's right and everyone else is wrong , practically his whole adult life...........but it's always just words Ransom - very convincing words . His biggest domestic move since gaining office has been tax relief for corporates and the wealthy........when do the people get their turn ?

    first pretty well everyone got a tax break and most corporation hired more people gave out raises to their entire work force and increased benefits , he created jobs reduced the unemployment rate got people off welfare and food stamps by the millions with the jobs he created . clearly you have no clue what your talking about as is par for the course

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    China are no angels Ransom....but you continue to never mention the fact that it was the corporates and globalists who beat a path to China's door - when you subtract that from the equation , the main responsibility shifts straight to Wall St , and nowhere else . The covid blame game , and the new anti-China agenda is little more than an opportune face-saving exercise for those incompetents who have economically phucked up big time , since leading up to , and during 2008GFC melt-down .....and all they're still doing , is running around like headless chickens , trying to hoover up every bit of wealth they can get their filthy hands on , at the expense of America , and all Americans .

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJL View Post
    China are no angels Ransom....but you continue to never mention the fact that it was the corporates and globalists who beat a path to China's door - when you subtract that from the equation , the main responsibility shifts straight to Wall St , and nowhere else . The covid blame game , and the new anti-China agenda is little more than an opportune face-saving exercise for those incompetents who have economically phucked up big time , since leading up to , and during 2008GFC melt-down .....and all they're still doing , is running around like headless chickens , trying to hoover up every bit of wealth they can get their filthy hands on , at the expense of America , and all Americans .

    o yes blame America lol do you know how many nations do business with China and why? you keep talking about 2008 lol that has nothing to do with anything plo



    https://www.investopedia.com/article...ds-factory.asp


    now after you try to read and understand the above think about this . businesses are leaving china do you know why ? unfair trade and china trying to blackmail them bully them and threaten them and china inability to have a to have a reliable supply chain . chinas in 10 years will have major issues feadding its self having a tax base and a good supply of energy .


    now the usa is not blameless for some of the worlds issues but you favorite nations that you suck up to suck as Russia china and Iran are major players in much of the worlds issue we try to help other nations and peoples china Russia and iran try to screw them. I dont know what hole you get your opinions from or what nation your handlers are from your opinions are about as useful as a milk bucket under a bull

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