Will the MSM "Journolist" Kamala Harris?

[DGUtley]

Some of you may recall 'journolist'. Journolist was a private Google Groupsforum for discussing politics and the news media with 400 "left-leaning" journalists, academics and others. Ezra Klein created the online forum in February 2007 while blogging at The American Prospect and shut it down on June 25, 2010 amid wider public exposure.

It was alleged that it was on Journolist that its members discussed calling anyone that criticizes Obama as racist. Responding to the Jeremiah Wright controversy surrounding Obama's campaign, one JournoList contributor, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent, stated "If the right forces us all to either defend or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them – Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares – and call them racists". Chris Hayes of The Nation was requesting ideas from other journalists for best ways to criticize Sarah Palin in an email thread. Ackerman was also quoted as saying, "find a right winger's [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously, I mean this rhetorically." According to media scholar Jim A. Kuypers, the hatred of conservatives was strong on the list. Sarah Spitz, an NPR affiliate producer, had written that she would "laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out", if she would witness Rush Limbaugh having a heart attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList

Journalists later pointed out various off-color statements made by members of the list denigrating conservatives, as well as a seeming conspiracy to prop up then Presidential candidate Barack Obama. Others defended such statements as being taken out of context or simply a matter of private candor.

it was clear that the MSM coordinated talking points to benefit Obama. This makes them advocates not journalists.

Will Kamala Harris get the same treatment?

[TheLiquidGuy]

So all of this is “alleged”? True or not, context does matter. And private candor is an important consideration.

Will Kamala get the same co ordinated treatment?

No more than the coordinated messaging treatment Republicans get from massive conservative franchises like ‘Sinclair group’ or State Television (aka Fox News). See video...

[DGUtley]

Really? It was true. If you will recall, anybody (or virtually anybody) that criticized The Obama was labeled a racist by the media. It was admitted and people were fired b/c of the coordination - but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.

It changed the "news" to "opinion" but they never told anybody.

[Peter1469]

She really tore into Joe. Called him a hard core racist.

[John Galt]

Some of you may recall 'journolist'. Journolist was a private Google Groupsforum for discussing politics and the news media with 400 "left-leaning" journalists, academics and others. Ezra Klein created the online forum in February 2007 while blogging at The American Prospect and shut it down on June 25, 2010 amid wider public exposure.

It was alleged that it was on Journolist that its members discussed calling anyone that criticizes Obama as racist. Responding to the Jeremiah Wright controversy surrounding Obama's campaign, one JournoList contributor, Spencer Ackerman of The Washington Independent, stated "If the right forces us all to either defend or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they've put upon us. Instead, take one of them – Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares – and call them racists". Chris Hayes of The Nation was requesting ideas from other journalists for best ways to criticize Sarah Palin in an email thread. Ackerman was also quoted as saying, "find a right winger's [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously, I mean this rhetorically." According to media scholar Jim A. Kuypers, the hatred of conservatives was strong on the list. Sarah Spitz, an NPR affiliate producer, had written that she would "laugh loudly like a maniac and watch his eyes bug out", if she would witness Rush Limbaugh having a heart attack.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList

Journalists later pointed out various off-color statements made by members of the list denigrating conservatives, as well as a seeming conspiracy to prop up then Presidential candidate Barack Obama. Others defended such statements as being taken out of context or simply a matter of private candor.

it was clear that the MSM coordinated talking points to benefit Obama. This makes them advocates not journalists.

Will Kamala Harris get the same treatment?

Will she get the same that Obama got from the Right? The pictures won't upload.

https://www.google.com/search?q=obam...xi1XAWf1RCGz-M

https://www.google.com/search?q=obam...8z6CD7XDwy0G3M

https://www.google.com/search?q=obam...w=1229&bih=539

[John Galt]

Really? It was true. If you will recall, anybody (or virtually anybody) that criticized The Obama was labeled a racist by the media. It was admitted and people were fired b/c of the coordination - but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.

It changed the "news" to "opinion" but they never told anybody.

Depends on the criticism. Some weren't racist. Many were. You don't believe trump's birther nonsense was based on the racism he was taught at the dinner table?

[TheLiquidGuy]

Really? It was true. If you will recall, anybody (or virtually anybody) that criticized The Obama was labeled a racist by the media. It was admitted and people were fired b/c of the coordination - but it doesn't change the fact that it happened.

It changed the "news" to "opinion" but they never told anybody.

I was just quoting your post: “It was alleged”

I’ve never agreed that calling a woman stupid is sexist or calling a black man same is racist, though I understand the rationale. When i call someone a racist (as i have on this forum, and been banned for doing so) it’s because they are racist.

Any activism in the MSM is matched or surpassed by activism in conservative and far right wing media. That doesn’t mean that we have balance and therefore all is well. It means this country will forever more be divided into two solitudes. As I keep saying: there is no truth anymore. There are only sides. Each one convinced they own the facts and ignorant/uninterested in the other’s perspective. This divisiveness has been severely aggravated by Trump’s “fake news” / “enemy of the people” revolution. I’m sure you will agree that the MSM doesn’t always get things right. I’m less confident you (collective) would think the same of your own sources.

I’ll leave it there lest i drift too far off topic.

[hanger4]

So all of this is “alleged”? True or not, context does matter. And private candor is an important consideration.

Will Kamala get the same co ordinated treatment?

No more than the coordinated messaging treatment Republicans get from massive conservative franchises like ‘Sinclair group’ or State Television (aka Fox News). See video...

*No more than the coordinated messaging treatment Republicans get from massive conservative franchises like ‘Sinclair group*

I laughed

[Henry]

She really tore into Joe. Called him a hard core racist.

No, she didn't. In fact, she said just the opposite.



Facts don't change.

[TheLiquidGuy]

*No more than the coordinated messaging treatment Republicans get from massive conservative franchises like ‘Sinclair group*

I laughed

explain.