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    If people could see the fee schedules of all the health insurance companies including the government's fee schedule, everyone and I mean everyone would be outraged of how much we are being manipulated and ripped off by the medical industry. I am all for a healthcare system that works and is fair but not the corrupt one we have now. I am sick of all the inaccurate and conflicting information that is provided by government websites that are suppose to be transparent by presenting factual information.

    This entire mandate is designed to control us and take more of our hard earned dollars and give very little in return. It is not going to reduce the number of uninsured. It is going to increase it and it is already causing obstruction to our fragile economy regarding employment. Since 2010, the federal government reduced funding to Medicaid causing the 61 million enrolled in 2009 to be reduced to 50 million today. The mandate for expanding Medicaid doesn't make sense when they dis-enrolled so many people before its effective date.

    They are not just playing with numbers, they are playing with people's lives. If so many people have health coverage through their employer, why enforce this now when we are struggling from the recession? None of it makes any sense and now the latest news is they are only going to randomly screen applicants to determine their income they stated is accurate on the application. What the hell does that mean? Do they want to encourage people to lie on these applications only to penalize them later for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Not for the people. People will still have to get insurance. Obama is showing he cares nothing about people just about the money men that finance political campaigns.
    The truth is that Obama wants the people to pay the tax, instead of get Insurance, It will help with the deficit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    The truth is that Obama wants the people to pay the tax, instead of get Insurance, It will help with the deficit?
    Wrong Obama is opening the door for people to sign on to Obamacare so it can not be repealed

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ud-yuval-levin

    Other states clearly shared this worry about how they were supposed to confirm eligibility for subsidies. But on Friday, the Obama administration answered their question with what is becoming the familiar refrain of Obamacare implementation: “never mind.” Buried in a massive 600-page rule released without fanfare the day after July 4, the administration announced that it would effectively delay the requirement to verify eligibility in the state exchanges.
    In 2014, applicants can more or less be deemed eligible for subsidies in the state-run exchanges if they say they are eligible. If it has no external sources of information regarding what insurance employers offer, the rule states, “the exchange may accept the applicant’s attestation regarding enrollment in an eligible employer-sponsored plan and eligibility for qualifying coverage in an employer-sponsored plan for the benefit year for which coverage is requested without further verification.” In fact, the exchanges are not only released from the obligation to verify whether applicants are eligible for employer coverage, they are also released from the obligation to confirm applicants’ statements regarding their household incomes before providing them with what is supposed to be an income-based benefit.

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    It gives employer's a year's grace. The INDIVIDUAL however is still responsible for buying insurance. This is going to tee off the young folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillowTree View Post
    It gives employer's a year's grace. The INDIVIDUAL however is still responsible for buying insurance. This is going to tee off the young folk.
    Not when you can sign up for Obamacare with no proof of income

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