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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I don't think that the platform used in the tests is the issue, it is the capability.

    http://www.missilethreat.com/archive...ect_detail.asp
    But do you think we should consider that the capability only comes with those that are only an actual threat to the the US and not some papertiger who just likes to talk and blow hot air. So truthully Iran cannot affect us or anybody except those in their region at this time. Correct?

    I mean Iran don't have the means to incorporate chemical weapons into their warheads for a ballistic missile system at all right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    Interesting. Not only would the PLA have a hard time, but in years past Taiwan probably only needed to hold out until the U.S. could move heavy forces in to to assist. I'm not sure if the U.S. resolve to intervene would be as strong now as it was in the past, since I think the country in general has "war fatigue" and such a move would mean WW3. If China ever thought they could get away with it though, they probably would have already made the move right? So it's good that they haven't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Inserting ground forces would be difficult anyway. I think the first few phases of such a conflict would be decided at sea and in the air.
    Yeah, Taiwan is a island so naval and air superiority would be the single most important, the ground force is just there to make sure they can't take the island simply by snipping through a few thousand men or anything . And in reality they would nee more like an entire army with all it's heavy equipmen on the island to be able to take it. Not to meantion Taiwan have enough men and command system anyway, at the most the US probably would send some extra defense weapon (anti air missiles, tanks and spare parts etc.) That's what they did in the 1958 battle of Kinmen , they gave some extra howitzer to the ROC forces on the island.


    There's very high political risk for China in attacking Taiwan too anyway, if they don't succeed in the venture there's a very high probability of military coup or some other forms of rebellion against the establishment.so if they're going to pull this they'd better be 100% sure they can win, and they're not here yet right now, unless they're willing to nuke Taiwan, which kinda defeat their original intention.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Iran has the jump on us in exactly nothing.
    Sure they do, rugs, beard and turbans
    Last edited by RollingWave; 02-19-2012 at 10:15 PM.

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    Pete do you read Stars and Stripes besides the AF Journal?
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    Who pays attention to small merchant ships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Who pays attention to small merchant ships?
    If they have a radiation signature, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingWave View Post
    Yeah, Taiwan is a island so naval and air superiority would be the single most important, the ground force is just there to make sure they can't take the island simply by snipping through a few thousand men or anything . And in reality they would nee more like an entire army with all it's heavy equipmen on the island to be able to take it.

    There's very high political risk for China in attacking Taiwan too anyway, if they don't succeed in the venture there's a very high probability of military coup or some other forms of rebellion against the establishment.so if they're going to pull this they'd better be 100% sure they can win, and they're not here yet right now, unless they're willing to nuke Taiwan, which kinda defeat their original intention.

    Sure they do, rugs, beard and turbans

    Pretty sure they kick our asses in date production as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Who pays attention to small merchant ships?
    Cmon Pete these are the Persians we are talking about. How can they affect us or anybody else Militarily or Economically with Oil that they can't refine nor compete in production with the Saudis and the all their Sunni brethren. They can't cause $#@! to affect others economies. They can't even hit Europe with ballisitic missiles yet.....right?

    Militarily these guys can't compare to the US, Brits, or the French. Let alone Israel who is way more prepared for war than the Brits or the French. It's all smoke and mirrors isn't it?

    Someone was saying that the Iranians were number one in biological weapons research. That was just some made up $#@! for propaganda right? I know they had to deal with the effects of such with Saddam and all but that was for healing and cures right? Not for weapons use.....correct?
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    RollingWave.....what is your assessment of Iran? Think these guys can affect anyone militarily or economically thats outside of the ME?
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    sure, iran can affect a lot. they are doing it right now all you have to look at is the build up of naval forces in the middle east and the price of oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elibe View Post
    sure, iran can affect a lot. they are doing it right now all you have to look at is the build up of naval forces in the middle east and the price of oil
    But they can't affect our economy. Nor the Brits or the French.....right? Like right now with all the sanctions against them, placing an Oil Embargo on the Brits and the French isn't going to affect their economies. Plus doing it the day before Nuke Proliferation talks only hurts their cause. What can their little Navy do to anybody in the the Straits of Hormuz with 3 or 4 carrier strike groups hanging out waiting for trouble? Plus moving a fleet into the Med. Their only setting themselves up to have all those ships sunk. Even if the US doesnt have anything in the Med that is around the Iranians can't take on the French or the Brits.....right? their technology can't even compare.....correct?

    Cmon the Persians are nothing more than a hyped up 3rd World Country that is all bark and no bite.....right? These are a backwards people and not to educated about much. Not since Cyrus the Great were they in any type of Power or Control of the ME. plus with all the US technology that the Saudis and the Sunni Governments all around. This means that truly Iran is the weakest of them all in the ME. Other than Syria.....Right?
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