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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
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    This kind of reporting does a disservice to us all, IMHO. We don't need daily death tolls and names. I understand where MMC is coming from and I definitely respect that but wars should not be reported this way. It did a great deal of damage to our cause in Vietnam, for example, and I doubt it helped in Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact, it most likely hurt us. Secondly, I just did a rough calculation and an average of 328 American men died each day in the Second World War. Now it's news when 4 men are killed? What's next? Will they show baby pictures and grieving parents? WTF?
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    I disagree completely but respect you for voicing your opinion.

    For starters, these men deserve to be remembered and appreciated for the sacrifices they made.

    Besides that, the American people should know the true cost of war. We're already too sheltered as it is. If people recognize the folly of some of these wars then hopefully we are less likely to repeat the errors in the future - learning from our history, as it were. If nothing else, the reporting from Iraq and Afghanistan are a reminder of how we need to get rid of our oil dependence and leave the Middle East behind (before anyone disagrees, I link Afghanistan to oil because it was AQ's goal to get the US off the Arabian Peninsula and away from the holy land; the reason we were there is of course because of oil).

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    More than likely due to being the first for the year. As usually they do not release the names so quick. Not that I agree with it. As like you say they have gone how many years without giving the names for a few days and after family has been contacted. Normally they Say NATO troops. In Which there are a bunch of links up that way.

    It cannot compare to the Great Wars or even Nam on the death toll. Its on every news station round here, papers and radio.
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    The family should definitely be contacted first. Are you guys saying that didn't happen in this case? That would have been a real cluster.

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    I would disagree with you on the aspect of reporting the deaths of.....and agree with CL's thought. No need to shelter any, when the Dogs of War Bay!

    Putting the personal info out before family and all have been contacted, is what I am against. As this is how their family found out.
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    When I was in Iraq, the base would turn off the internet until family members could be notified of deaths. Of course if you had a private connection in your quarters that was available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conley View Post
    I disagree completely but respect you for voicing your opinion.

    For starters, these men deserve to be remembered and appreciated for the sacrifices they made.

    Besides that, the American people should know the true cost of war. We're already too sheltered as it is. If people recognize the folly of some of these wars then hopefully we are less likely to repeat the errors in the future - learning from our history, as it were. If nothing else, the reporting from Iraq and Afghanistan are a reminder of how we need to get rid of our oil dependence and leave the Middle East behind (before anyone disagrees, I link Afghanistan to oil because it was AQ's goal to get the US off the Arabian Peninsula and away from the holy land; the reason we were there is of course because of oil).
    Respect all around of course. We're just discussing.

    They do deserve to be remembered but being memorialized on the 6 O'clock news is a different matter. What are we trying to do? Win? If so, this isn't the smart thing to do. I understand that you don't support the war and neither do I but that's not the point. Let me put it this way. What if you did support the war? What if you thought it was absolutely necessary and the righteous thing to do. What then? Would you support this kind of reporting when it undermines morale at home?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I would disagree with you on the aspect of reporting the deaths of.....and agree with CL's thought. No need to shelter any, when the Dogs of War Bay!

    Putting the personal info out before family and all have been contacted, is what I am against. As this is how their family found out.
    I didn't realize that on my first read through. That's awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    When I was in Iraq, the base would turn off the internet until family members could be notified of deaths. Of course if you had a private connection in your quarters that was available.
    Thanks, that does make sense. I can see how a leak would happen.

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