America’s educational madness

[zelmo1234]

Shouldn't be......

Laws for the liberal education of youth, especially of the lower class of people, are so extremely wise and useful, that, to a humane and generous mind, no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant.

John Adams - Thoughts on Governmnet

You want the lower class to learn, first you make the parents get them to school or you toss them in jail on work details.

Next you hold them accountable and hold them back if they can't preform the work.

Bring back military and boarding schools for those that just want to be trouble makers.

Get rid of tenure so you can get rid of teachers that are there only for a check

And reward only those that are hi

[Chris]

And there was no considering making large profits by private enterprise either. All were welcome to an education no matter their ability to pay.

Even gifted students today are becoming indentured servants.

Education for Profit:

By many measures, the University of Phoenix is the most successful institution for higher education in American history. With more than 325,000 students currently enrolled—22 times the number at the University of Chicago—Phoenix is vast, and contains multitudes. On campuses scattered across 39 states, and online as well, it offers everything from associate's degrees in sports management to Spanish-language MBAs. And unlike most universities, Phoenix makes a hefty profit. Its parent company, the Apollo Group, produced margins of 11.7 percent last year on revenue of $2.9 billion. What began in 1976 as a small night school where firemen and policemen between shifts completed unfinished bachelor's degrees is now an educational and commercial powerhouse listed on NASDAQ, with a market capitalization of $7.4 billion.

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But much of what academic traditionalists see as problems, Phoenix advertises proudly as solutions. The university aims to meet underserved demand for post-secondary education, tailor-made to fit the individual circumstances of harried adults. Like other for-profit schools such as DeVry and ITT, Phoenix offers the educational equivalent of a subprime mortgage: not the best product the industry has to offer, but a potentially valuable option for people who might not otherwise get into a desired market.

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Private education, nic, can have the same goals as public education. But instead of losing money--wasting other people's money--it can be profitable,.

[patrickt]

You want the lower class to learn, first you make the parents get them to school or you toss them in jail on work details.

Next you hold them accountable and hold them back if they can't preform the work.

Bring back military and boarding schools for those that just want to be trouble makers.

Get rid of tenure so you can get rid of teachers that are there only for a check

And reward only those that are hi

And, do away with public sector unions. If teachers or police officers or firemen want a raise, let them appeal to the public and not to the itinerant managers passing through.