User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 29

Thread: 1993 Voter Registration Act Guarantees Right to Register when Applying For Health Ins

  1. #1
    Points: 500,453, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cigar's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    325517
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Wow, what next?
    Posts
    78,900
    Points
    500,453
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    4,088
    Thanked 12,276x in 9,780 Posts
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Lightbulb 1993 Voter Registration Act Guarantees Right to Register when Applying For Health Ins

    GOP Furious: 1993 Voter Registration Act GUARANTEES RIGHT TO REGISTER When Applying For Health Ins.



    One of the main reasons Republicans oppose Obamacare has largely flown under the public’s radar — until now. Here’s the key to understanding the GOP’s typically mean-spirited position: applications for insurance under the Affordable Care Act will also allow people to register to vote. Aha! The picture jumps into focus. Those in our population who are most anxious to sign up for healthcare coverage are the same people who the GOP has worked diligently, in state after state, to disenfranchise. The Affordable Care Act could lay waste to all that conservative effort.

    Voters’ Rights groups have been keenly aware of this emerging issue, which is likely to be fought out in court. It became obvious to careful watchers in March, when a draft of the insurance application became public, that it would include the opportunity to register to vote. It was also obvious to those defending the right to vote that this provision is mandated by federal law — specifically by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act. That law, more popularly known as the “Motor Voter Act”, specified that states had to offer voter registration in government offices. That’s why most states currently offer the option to register to everyone who gets a driver’s license.

    The draft application got an immediate response from Congressman Charles W. Boustany,(R-Louisiana). As chairman of the House Committee On Ways And Means Subcommittee On Oversight (got that?), Boustany wrote a letter of protest to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. His objection was supposedly that applicants would be confused and think that voter registration was somehow linked to getting subsidies for their health insurance. Right … because Republicans have been so-o-o concerned that people get all the subsidies to which they are entitled. California eagerly embraced the provision in May, becoming the first state to designate its healthcare exchange as a voter registration agency. New York and Vermont soon followed, while Connecticut and Maryland recently announced plans to do the same. The difficulty, of course, comes from less progressive states. Their argument is over whether the exchanges are really government agencies, to which the 1993 law applies. Lisa Danetz, of the advocacy group Demos, is confident that it does. She says:

    However it’s organized, the actions of the exchanges are closely intertwined and are essentially the actions of the state … In the long run, they’re going to be doing it. It’s what the law requires.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...anges/2664483/

    Progressive groups have raised the concern that the administration might back down on the issue in the face of a strong conservative backlash. However, talkingpointsmemo.com reported on Tuesday that they had received confirmation from a White House spokesman that the administration hasn’t changed its position; the marketplaces fall under the 1993 law and voter registration is “still the plan”.


    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09...lth-insurance/

    I think this one is going to leave a nasty scar

  2. #2
    Points: 73,464, Level: 66
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 1,986
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassSocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsYour first GroupVeteran
    Alyosha's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    97522
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    18,343
    Points
    73,464
    Level
    66
    Thanks Given
    6,028
    Thanked 13,074x in 8,482 Posts
    Mentioned
    1256 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    I don't believe people should be forced to buy healthcare or forced to pay for an ID card so they can vote.

    At least I'm consistent.

  3. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Alyosha For This Useful Post:

    Captain Obvious (09-27-2013),nic34 (09-27-2013)

  4. #3
    Points: 56,719, Level: 58
    Level completed: 19%, Points required for next Level: 1,631
    Overall activity: 0.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience PointsTagger Second Class
    patrickt's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    17597
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Living in Oaxaca, Mexico, born in Memphis and worked in Colorado
    Posts
    11,977
    Points
    56,719
    Level
    58
    Thanks Given
    916
    Thanked 5,009x in 3,481 Posts
    Mentioned
    54 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    How about people getting insurance who aren't citizens? Do they get registered to vote by the criminals in politics, too?

  5. #4
    Points: 47,456, Level: 53
    Level completed: 23%, Points required for next Level: 1,394
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation First Class50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    jillian's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    53535
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    12,432
    Points
    47,456
    Level
    53
    Thanks Given
    2,229
    Thanked 2,058x in 1,737 Posts
    Mentioned
    421 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    I don't believe people should be forced to buy healthcare or forced to pay for an ID card so they can vote.

    At least I'm consistent.

    you are. and i gave you kudos for that yesterday. you do seem to keep to certain beliefs no matter which "side" they help.

    i like that. you're a rarity.

    (i'll still probaly only agree with you about 3 things out of 100, but you're definitely not a hypocrite)

  6. #5
    Points: 67,320, Level: 63
    Level completed: 35%, Points required for next Level: 1,430
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveCreated Album pictures50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second ClassTagger Second ClassVeteran
    Codename Section's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    61025
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    18,180
    Points
    67,320
    Level
    63
    Thanks Given
    6,439
    Thanked 10,845x in 7,281 Posts
    Mentioned
    983 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    I don't believe people should be forced to buy healthcare or forced to pay for an ID card so they can vote.

    At least I'm consistent.

    Do you think you need to show ID to use a credit card?

  7. #6
    Points: 500,453, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cigar's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    325517
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Wow, what next?
    Posts
    78,900
    Points
    500,453
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    4,088
    Thanked 12,276x in 9,780 Posts
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    I don't believe people should be forced to buy healthcare or forced to pay for an ID card so they can vote.

    At least I'm consistent.
    I can't imagine why anyone who could afford Health Insurance at such a low cost ... not get it.

    It's like making someone breath ...

  8. #7
    Points: 47,456, Level: 53
    Level completed: 23%, Points required for next Level: 1,394
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation First Class50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    jillian's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    53535
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    12,432
    Points
    47,456
    Level
    53
    Thanks Given
    2,229
    Thanked 2,058x in 1,737 Posts
    Mentioned
    421 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Codename Section View Post
    Do you think you need to show ID to use a credit card?
    no. you generally don't.

    on the other hand, no one who is the head of the GOP of the state of Pennsylvania ever talked about how credit card ID laws cut 5% off of the president's lead in their state.

  9. #8
    Points: 73,464, Level: 66
    Level completed: 14%, Points required for next Level: 1,986
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassSocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsYour first GroupVeteran
    Alyosha's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    97522
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    18,343
    Points
    73,464
    Level
    66
    Thanks Given
    6,028
    Thanked 13,074x in 8,482 Posts
    Mentioned
    1256 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    I can't imagine why anyone who could afford Health Insurance at such a low cost ... not get it.

    It's like making someone breath ...
    I can't understand why anyone wanting to vote cannot start 6 months ahead of time and do what's necessary to get it down and pay the $15 for a state ID, but...just because I can't doesn't mean I feel it's the job of government to FORCE them to do it.

    I don't believe in forcing people to buy anything with their money. That's the difference between you and me.

  10. #9
    Points: 500,453, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Cigar's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    325517
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Wow, what next?
    Posts
    78,900
    Points
    500,453
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    4,088
    Thanked 12,276x in 9,780 Posts
    Mentioned
    1541 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Codename Section View Post
    Do you think you need to show ID to use a credit card?
    Not if I have paper that says "In God We Trust"

    Does this God need ID?

  11. #10
    Original Ranter
    Points: 314,886, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0.2%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second Class50000 Experience PointsOverdriveVeteranYour first Group
    Captain Obvious's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    773942
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    80,473
    Points
    314,886
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    30,199
    Thanked 40,087x in 27,208 Posts
    Mentioned
    1041 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyosha View Post
    I don't believe people should be forced to buy healthcare or forced to pay for an ID card so they can vote.

    At least I'm consistent.
    Great points - but you aren't against the concept of voter ID as long as the gubmint foots the cost of getting the ID?
    my junk is ugly

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts