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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    In theory, the Libertarians are individualist.
    So are serial killers. But the Libretardians kill the economy with their class bias excluding everybody but them and their brats and turning the talent pool into a puddle.
    On the outside, trickling down on the Insiders

    We won't live free until the Democrats, and their voters, live in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    So are serial killers. But the Libretardians kill the economy with their class bias excluding everybody but them and their brats and turning the talent pool into a puddle.
    Who are these libertarians doing so? Wait. Don't answer. It will be total nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    So are serial killers. But the Libretardians kill the economy with their class bias excluding everybody but them and their brats and turning the talent pool into a puddle.
    How can libertarians be killing the economy, when libertarians aren't in control of the economy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Right, but in the sense the OP elaborates.

    Lower case "el" libertarian. I'm not so sure the Libertarian Party.
    The LP has the Koch Bros. logo, on their donors page, or they did, last I checked.

    So when Gary what'shisbutt ran for President, in 2012, he wouldn't acknowledge climate change or human complicity.

    When I was a registered L, every last media hack was trying to get other Ls to donate, to their hack media funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobgnote View Post
    The LP has the Koch Bros. logo, on their donors page, or they did, last I checked.

    So when Gary what'shisbutt ran for President, in 2012, he wouldn't acknowledge climate change or human complicity.

    When I was a registered L, every last media hack was trying to get other Ls to donate, to their hack media funds.

    I'd rather be a Green, but the Justice Party will have to do.


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    If a democrat or republican can hold ideas that ranges from progressive to conservative (left-right).... why can't they let us know where they are on the libertarian-authoritarian scale (up-down)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nic34 View Post
    If a democrat or republican can hold ideas that ranges from progressive to conservative (left-right).... why can't they let us know where they are on the libertarian-authoritarian scale (up-down)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nic34 View Post
    If a democrat or republican can hold ideas that ranges from progressive to conservative (left-right).... why can't they let us know where they are on the libertarian-authoritarian scale (up-down)?
    Because if they were honest about where they rest on that scale, they'd likely never get elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The notion of individualism is something even some libertarians get wrong.


    ARE LIBERTARIANS INDIVIDUALISTS?





    Individuals, then, have negative and positive liberties, but liberties exist and are meaningful only in society, liberties are social responsibilities, obligations we hold toward each other.


    I think individualism needs to make a come back as is demonstrated by the public's "Aor B" mentality. However , even more important is local community dependence and the freedoms that come with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I think individualism needs to make a come back as is demonstrated by the public's "Aor B" mentality. However , even more important is local community dependence and the freedoms that come with it
    Individualism goes hand-in-hand with capitalism...and socialism for that matter. Economic liberalism and the liberal state...and nothing in between. Gone is the community of relationships that used to bind people together.



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