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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    Are you trying to say that that charity is bad????

    Martha's Table is actually a pretty good non-profit organization, and they contribute quite a good amount towards contributions, even charity navigator (which is a good website for non-profits) shows those stats along with other websites that help rate non-profits. In fact they are given a four star rating with a score of 63 out of 70 on charity navigator and five stars by other sites.
    You decide whether or not it's a good charity.

    In 2011, total contributions and grants amounted to $5,880,657, which includes grants from the Government of about $1,250,000. Salary and compensation amounted to $2,746,768 which also includes administrative cost such as occupancy, which came out to another $452,00, travel expenses of $42,000, legal expenses $40,000 and other expenses amounting to $106,000.

    This means only $2.1 million dollars actually went to charitable work, an expense ratio of 64%. Which means almost 30% of every dollar spent goes to an actual charity.

    The President picked this charity, so it doesn't surprise me that it's every bit as phony as he is...

    I do a lot with non-profits, it's one of my personal career goals, and most good ones have around the same rate. There are no 100% contribution non-profits otherwise they wouldn't stay active.
    You mean to tell me that it's your personal career goal and you do zero research on how non-profits allocate their resources?

    I'm not sure why you are trying to make this all out to be a bad thing. You may not agree with the president on a lot of things, and neither do I, but what he did in that room wasn't bad. Him being there for a little while isn't going to shut down a government already in shut down and him spending the 30 minutes in the oval office won't restart it. He did a nice thing, the people appreciated it, it probably motivated them to keep doing selfless work, and to condemn it just comes across as bitter in my opinion.
    The country has no shortage of people doing nice things. We the country needs are people who are thinking. Clearly we have a shortage of these types of people. If anyone took the time to do any research, we would know that the President's time is better spent doing better things. And if it isn't, he can at least visit a charity which is actually making a differences.
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    According to this site, of the 50 top charities, only 6 of them fell below the 75% level of actually giving to the needy,

    so that 64% is a pretty telling number.

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    Chloe, I hope you learned something here. Feel good does not necessarily equal actual results. A charity with that kind of wage and benefit burden is a major rip off.

    That is what we are trying to explain to you about government these days. It is full of feel good stuff that basically wastes a ton of taxed and borrowed money and produces very little results.

    If you want a real shock, compare it to the Salvation Army.

    Fortunately, unlike most of our liberal cadre here, I think you have the capability to understand what AT explained to you.

    As for this President, I'll simply suggest that you compare his behavior in this situation with that of Bill Clinton back in 1995. Again, very telling.
    “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him had better take a closer look at the American Indian.”. Henry Ford

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    Are you trying to say that that charity is bad????

    Martha's Table is actually a pretty good non-profit organization, and they contribute quite a good amount towards contributions, even charity navigator (which is a good website for non-profits) shows those stats along with other websites that help rate non-profits. In fact they are given a four star rating with a score of 63 out of 70 on charity navigator and five stars by other sites. I do a lot with non-profits, it's one of my personal career goals, and most good ones have around the same rate. There are no 100% contribution non-profits otherwise they wouldn't stay active.

    I'm not sure why you are trying to make this all out to be a bad thing. You may not agree with the president on a lot of things, and neither do I, but what he did in that room wasn't bad. Him being there for a little while isn't going to shut down a government already in shut down and him spending the 30 minutes in the oval office won't restart it. He did a nice thing, the people appreciated it, it probably motivated them to keep doing selfless work, and to condemn it just comes across as bitter in my opinion.
    Charity is not bad. But doing it so the president can wag the dog in a way that is difficult to criticize is the most $#@!ly thing possible.

    "The country will collapse Mr. President! We have to do something!" the pundits would say.

    "Hey, I'm busy feeding this poor disadvantaged black orphan, get off my case. Why do you hate charity work?" Obama would say.

    "..." the critics would say.

    It is hard to criticize somebody putting on the facade of charity. But even Jesus did it. The gospels tell us this. And since Obama declares he is a Christian, he should operate accordingly.
    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

    Ephesians 6:12

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    Most of them are scams. Remember locks of love that people would donate hair for cancer patients. They couldn't account for 6.6 millions dollars worth of donated hair this year. I know many people who wanted to do something and did give only to find out they only made 317 natural wigs in 2011 the rest was sold for profit. I don't mind giving and will but only to the ones I know they are going to help people and I have been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    To me it is the timing. He should be dealing with Congress to get the government running and dealing with the debt ceiling.
    But but Peter.....He did a nice thing, the people appreciated it, it probably motivated them to keep doing selfless work.

    For the love of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    But but Peter.....He did a nice thing, the people appreciated it, it probably motivated them to keep doing selfless work.

    For the love of God.

    Shouldn't he be directing a drone strike on some tango in Pakistan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Shouldn't he be directing a drone strike on some tango in Pakistan?
    Not when there are regional powers to dictate events.

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    I love it, the brother doesn't have care in the world. Just let the crazies outside call him Muslim or anything they like.

    But he has what they can't get, The Presedency.

    So I say, $#@!'em, and take that Flag a shove it sideways.

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    Pres I dency, Cigar.

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