Why do you believe/disbelieve in god?

[Chris]

I think not believing--nonbelief--is different than disbelieving. Just as belief requires putting faith in god's existence, disbelieve requires putting faith in god's nonexistence. Nonbelief is neither. And it's not just lack of evidence but lack of logic, there's no reason to believe or disbelieve. Someone earlier pointed out neither god's existence nor nonexistence can be proved; I don't think anything can be proved, except in pure mathematics or logic, and those are artificial universes.

Yes, it might be Burn's position, just different words, but I'm not going to interpret them and tell him what he meant, that's for him to explain.

[Conley]

So you are a nonbeliever, not a disbeliever and it's based on logic?

[Chris]

Nonbeliever, based on no reason (evidence and/or logic) to believe or disbelieve.

[wingrider]

[QUOTE=Chris;38475]Nonbeliever, based on no reason (evidence and/or logic) to believe or disbelieve.[/QUOTE

you better hope you are correct.. cause you are betting the farm on it

[Chris]

Betting the farm on what? What god was Pascal betting on?

[wingrider]

this isn't about pascals wager or any other such philosophy, this is about whether or not you have an eternal soul and where it will spend eternity.

so you better be correct when you say that God does not exist or you don't believe in Him.. good luck with your choice.

[Chris]

this isn't about pascals wager or any other such philosophy, this is about whether or not you have an eternal soul and where it will spend eternity.

so you better be correct when you say that God does not exist or you don't believe in Him.. good luck with your choice.

What you're arguing is Pascal's Wager. So I ask you, what if you bet on the wrong god? Feeling lucky?

Also, please read what I post, I did not say God does not exist or that I disbelieve. I said I lack faith in, well, perhaps you could tell me what god is that you think I should gamble on?

[roadmaster]

I know some evangelicals do. The admins at The Congress do.

You are correct.

[wingrider]

What you're arguing is Pascal's Wager. So I ask you, what if you bet on the wrong god? Feeling lucky?

Also, please read what I post, I did not say God does not exist or that I disbelieve. I said I lack faith in, well, perhaps you could tell me what god is that you think I should gamble on?

there is only one creator/God any other belief system is panthiesm, and I don't really care if you gamble or not with your soul, like the man says " ya pays your money and ya takes your chances".. I am not going to tell anyone what to believe or disbelive that is none of my business, all I say is whatever you believe or disbelieve you better be right.

[roadmaster]

You see Christians are not going to be able to convince you God exist. Our job is to plant a seed but we can’t make it grow. In your heart you will know when He speaks to your heart and you will either listen or block Him out. I had a friend that had been trying to have a child for a long time. When he was born, he was born without a skull and died in her arms soon after. As a Christian she was devastated. She called me and asked me why. I told her the truth, I don’t have all the answers. I can’t see years down the road or even the next day. Three years later she had a healthy baby girl but I know what happened tested her faith but she never lost it. People that don’t believe think we never question God. I am not perfect but my Master owns my soul. In a hospital once a woman came in crying, her son in his 20ies had been in a bad car accident. The Dr’s gave him no hope, brain dead and almost all his bones were broken. The mothers pastor showed up and her and him began praying. They say miracles don’t happen these days but when the Dr.s went back into this man room he was completely healed. The Dr’s were shocked. After this happened and yes this man was not saved before this but became an assistant Pastor.
Why some are healed, why some die young, why things happen that will test a person I don’t know but whatever happens I don’t need to call a priest because I know where my Master Jesus is. Either way it goes, I am going with Him.